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Weekly Roundup - Living On Nothing Edition [Survival Today - an On going Thread #3]
Frugal Dad .com ^ | July 23, 2009 | Frugal Dad

Posted on 07/24/2009 3:37:21 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny

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Did you hear about the guy that lives on nothing? No seriously, he lives on zero dollars a day. Meet Daniel Suelo, who lives in a cave outside Moab, Utah. Suelo has no mortgage, no car payment, no debt of any kind. He also has no home, no car, no television, and absolutely no “creature comforts.” But he does have a lot of creatures, as in the mice and bugs that scurry about the cave floor he’s called home for the last three years.

To us, Suelo probably sounds a little extreme. Actually, he probably sounds very extreme. After all, I suspect most of you reading this are doing so under the protection of some sort of man-made shelter, and with some amount of money on your person, and probably a few needs for money, too. And who doesn’t need money unless they have completely unplugged from the grid? Still, it’s an amusing story about a guy who rejects all forms of consumerism as we know it.

The Frugal Roundup

How to Brew Your Own Beer and Maybe Save Some Money. A fantastic introduction to home brewing, something I’ve never done myself, but always been interested in trying. (@Generation X Finance)

Contentment: A Great Financial Principle. If I had to name one required emotion for living a frugal lifestyle it would be contentment. Once you are content with your belongings and your lot in life you can ignore forces attempting to separate you from your money. (@Personal Finance by the Book)

Use Energy Star Appliances to Save On Utility Costs. I enjoyed this post because it included actual numbers, and actual total savings, from someone who upgraded to new, energy star appliances. (@The Digerati Life)

Over-Saving for Retirement? Is it possible to “over-save” for retirement? Yes, I think so. At some point I like the idea of putting some money aside in taxable investments outside of retirement funds, to be accessed prior to traditional retirement age. (@The Simple Dollar)

40 Things to Teach My Kids Before They Leave Home. A great list of both practical and philosophical lessons to teach your kids before they reach the age where they know everything. I think that now happens around 13 years-old. (@My Supercharged Life)

Index Fund Investing Overview. If you are looking for a place to invest with high diversification and relatively low fees (for broader index funds with low turnover), index funds are a great place to start. (@Money Smart Life)

5 Reasons To Line Dry Your Laundry. My wife and I may soon be installing a clothesline in our backyard. In many neighborhoods they are frowned upon - one of the reasons I don’t like living in a neighborhood. I digress. One of our neighbors recently put up a clothesline, and we might just follow his lead. (@Simple Mom)

A Few Others I Enjoyed

* 4 Quick Tips for Getting Out of a Rut * Young and Cash Rich * Embracing Simple Style * First Trading Experience With OptionsHouse * The Exponential Power of Delayed Consumption * How Much Emergency Fund is Enough? * 50 Questions that Will Free Your Mind * Save Money On Car Insurance


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http://www.wvfarmlandprotection.org/co_gree_about.cfm

Our Purpose

Nationwide, America is losing farmland. According to the American Farmland Trust, the United States is losing 2.2 million acres of rural lands to urban sprawl every year. This means that, across the United States, over 4 acres of rural lands are consumed every single second.

In an effort to address the loss of farmland, at least 27 states have implemented Farmland protection programs. In 1996, the U.S. Department of Agriculture funded a farmland protection effort with a 6-year goal of protecting between 170,000 and 340,000 acres of farmland.

West Virginia has not escaped the loss of farmland. From 1964 to 1997, the U.S. Department of Agriculture-reports that West Virginia lost an incredible 17,732 farms and 1,823,060 acres of farmland. From 1982 through 1997, 25 of the most productive counties in West Virginia had a combined loss of 103,519 acres of productive farmland.

Greenbrier County, the second largest land mass county, has lost and continues to lose farmland. In the 1972 soil survey of Greenbrier, the county had 228,969 acres of farmland, and by 1997 that number had been reduced to 184,359 acres, a loss of 44,610 acres. Also, according to the Soil Survey of the Greenbrier County Soil Conservation Service, in 1972 the county had 1,237 farms with an average acreage of 185 acres, and according to the 1997 Census of Agriculture, this number had fallen to 727, a loss of 510 farms. With the loss of farmland, there is a loss of agricultural industry, which has been the heartbeat of the county’s economy for over 200 years.

Agriculture is a unique life support industry, providing sources of agricultural products for the citizens of the state. Because West Virginia’s farmland is so much less than other states, it is even more important to take steps to protect is, as it is some of the best soil suited to agricultural production in the raising of cattle, sheep, poultry and dairy animals, according to the 1997 Agricultural Census.

Further, the Homeland Security Act, which the Congress passed as a protection measure following the attack of September 11, 2000, specifies that America’s farms should be protected as a means of making us self-sustaining in the event of attacks which would prevent the importation of foodstuffs from foreign countries. Because of the enormous loss of farmland nationwide during the last 25 years, the United States is no longer self-sustaining according to statistics provided by the American Farmland Trust.

In an effort to create a local program to provide farm owners a voluntary land conservation option, the Greenbrier County Commission on December 12, 2000, authorized the Greenbrier County Farmland Protection Board Program. The Farmland Protection Board is charged under the Act with creating a document proposing a farmland protection program consistent with the Legislature’s intent and to seek funding to implement such a program.

This program establishes uniform standards and guidelines for the eligibility of properties and the ranking criteria utilized to prioritize funds allocation to purchase conservation easements, or to pay associated costs for the purchased or donated easements. The guidelines established by this program outline the various methods of farmland protection available to prospective participating property owners, and the procedures to be followed in applying for program consideration.

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3,381 posted on 10/20/2009 7:58:34 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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The following is from our County Agent - Important lessons for all of us can be gleaned from it particularly in these times. [DW]
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Building a Resilient Farm
The following is from an article from the Kentucky Dairy Notes newsletter on building resilient dairy farms. Although the article is targetting dairy, the principles apply to all farms.

1. Learn to live with change and uncertainty. First, discard the idea that the situation will remain stable and learn to expect the unexpected. As crises occur, learn from each of them. Maintain a flexible farming system and be ready to change business strategies when necessary. Limit debt levels and maintain caution with large, long-term investments or contracts. If possible, spread risk by cooperating with other farmers or making purchases that are easy to sell or convert to uses in other enterprises. Finally, do what farmers do best, by using existing buildings and equipment in creative ways or doing things yourself rather than hiring them to be done by someone else.

2. Nurture diversity. The ability to cope with changes increases with diversification—of crops, animals, breeds, products, and enterprises. On-farm independence may be increased by looking for ways to rely less on others for labor, nutrient management, energy use, or even money. Similarly, maintain diversity in where you obtain information. For example, some information may come from conversations with friends and neighbors. On the other hand, information may also be obtained through workshops, seminars, and classes. Both on-farm experiments and new knowledge created from controlled research experiments are critical to exploring new dairy business opportunities.

3. Combine different types of knowledge and learning. The uncertainty that is characteristic of farming means that traditional thought processes, like stability, income maximization, technical fine-tuning, and biological optimization, must be balanced with adaptability, resilience, and flexibility. Traditional, practical knowledge gained through daily management of the dairy farm should be combined with the knowledge and information created through science. Farm study groups may also provide an excellent opportunity to get new ideas and learn new things. In addition to listening to industry professionals and other farmers, it is important to listen to what society and urban consumers has to say about the type of farming operations where they would like to see their food produced. Lastly, don’t overlook the value of listening to business partners and family members.

4. Create opportunities for organizing yourself and links with others. Establishing a strong network of friends, family, and contacts can help with farm resilience. Being involved in dairy producer and political organizations can help you be prepared to deal with change through collective action. Perhaps more importantly, being involved with organized community groups, such as church, local sports, civic organizations, may prove beneficial in dealing with the impact of outside influences on your dairy business.

Reprinted in part from “Building Resilient Dairy Farms” by Jeffrey Bewley in the October, 2009 edition of the Kentucky Dairy Notes newsletter http://www.uky.edu/Ag/AnimalSciences/dairy/newsletters/2009oct/oct2009.pdf


3,382 posted on 10/20/2009 8:01:10 PM PDT by DelaWhere (VEGETARIAN: An old Indian word for 'Bad Hunter'. (From bumper sticker seen today.))
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“The happy State of Matrimony is, undoubtedly, the surest and most lasting Foundation of Comfort and Love; the Source of all that endearing Tenderness and Affection which arises from Relation and Affinity; the grand Point of Property; the Cause of all good Order in the World, and what alone preserves it from the utmost Confusion; and, to sum up all, the Appointment of infinite Wisdom for these great and good Purposes.”

—Benjamin Franklin, Rules and Maxims for Promoting Matrimonial Happiness, 1730

http://patriotpost.us/


3,383 posted on 10/21/2009 4:47:21 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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Post 3070

Cinnamon and honey cures.

http://www.survivalschool.com/articles/Bee_Keeping/Cinnamon_and_Honey_Cures.htm

[Referencing.]


3,384 posted on 10/21/2009 8:41:57 AM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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LONGEVITY:
Tea made with honey and cinnamon powder, when taken regularly, arrests the ravages of old age. Take four spoons of honey, one spoon of cinnamon powder And three cups of water and boil to make like tea. Drink 1/4 cup, three to four times a day. It keeps the skin fresh and soft and arrests old age. Life spans also increases and even a 100 year old, starts performing the chores of a 20-year-old.

Cinnamon and Honey Cures

http://www.survivalschool.com/articles/Bee_Keeping/Cinnamon_and_Honey_Cures.htm


3,385 posted on 10/21/2009 8:58:41 AM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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On occasion some elected officials read the Constitution as what it really says......(Note: he proposed this legislation in 2000)

Finally, A Sensible Non-Gun Registration Plan

“Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the
U.S. Constitution as well as Vermont’s own Constitution very carefully,
and his strict interpretation of these documents is popping some
eyeballs in New England and elsewhere.

Maslack recently proposed a bill to register non-gun-owners and require
them to pay a $500 fee to the state. Thus Vermont would become the first
state to require a permit for the luxury of going about unarmed and
assess a fee of $500 for the privilege of not owning a gun.

Maslack read the “militia” phrase of the Second Amendment as not only
affirming the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a
clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was
advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a
“monopoly of force” by the government as well as criminals.

Vermont’s constitution states explicitly that “the people have a right
to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State” and those
persons who “conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms” shall be
required to “pay such equivalent.” Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters
have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves so that they are
capable of responding to “any situation that may arise”.

Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required
to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver’s
license number with the state. “There is a legitimate government
interest in knowing who is prepared to defend the state should they be
asked to do so,” Maslack says.

Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least
restrictive laws of any state - it’s currently the only state that
allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This
combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted
in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation.”

From an email - Bruce Hopkins owner of:
http://www.internet-grocer.net


3,386 posted on 10/21/2009 8:59:19 AM PDT by DelaWhere (VEGETARIAN: An old Indian word for 'Bad Hunter'. (From bumper sticker seen today.))
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multi-locale version of

STAND BY ME:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g7QTr1rzBk


3,387 posted on 10/21/2009 10:00:38 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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http://www.hhs.gov/news/healthbeat/2009/10/20091021a.html

HHS HealthBeat (October 21, 2009)
Soy isoflavone tablets and bone density

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From the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, I’m Ira Dreyfuss with HHS HealthBeat.

Tablets containing isoflavones extracted from soy protein might not help postmenopausal women prevent bone loss after all.

Previous research indicated that modest amounts of soy foods, rich in isoflavones, helped to protect against bone loss. This could suggest that soy isoflavone tablets might provide an alternative to hormone therapy, which has been linked with health problems such as a higher risk of breast cancer and blood clots.

But Iowa State University researcher D. Lee Alekel reported at a meeting of the American Society for Bone and Mineral Research:

[D. Lee Alekel says] “Soy isoflavones at the doses that we provided had no effect on bone.’’

The study was supported by the National Institutes of Health.

Learn more at hhs.gov.

HHS HealthBeat is a production of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. I’m Ira Dreyfuss.

Last revised: October, 21 2009


3,388 posted on 10/21/2009 10:11:34 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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1. Learn to live with change and uncertainty. First, discard the idea that the situation will remain stable and learn to expect the unexpected. As crises occur, learn from each of them. Maintain a flexible farming system and be ready to change business strategies when necessary.<<<

So very true, for if the ‘o’ wins his way, our old ways will be so changed, that we will not be able to function as we have.

I don’t think folks really understand the changes that will go down, when we are a one world - world.

We will not decide what to grow or eat, we will be told what is to be our portion, and if it is going to come at all.

farming during and after the russian revolution

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The reason that Ukraine starved, is that the russians took all their food, I have seen photos and it is indeed a true crime against a country.........

Now we are under threat of a takeover by a communist, and there is a great danger that we will face the same fate of
“All food produced belongs to the Government”.

Clinton had it put in the FEMA orders that they can take our stored foods, there was a lot about that during the Y2K era and it is called something like “Illegal Hoarded Food”.

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3,389 posted on 10/21/2009 10:40:40 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Joya

Cinnamon and honey cures.

http://www.survivalschool.com/articles/Bee_Keeping/Cinnamon_and_Honey_Cures.htm

[Referencing.]<<<

Thank you for reposting, a cure for many ailments that will store well and safely.


3,390 posted on 10/21/2009 10:42:20 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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Finally, A Sensible Non-Gun Registration Plan<<<

How I would laugh, if the law went through.........and they added a rider that requires a sign saying “Gun Free Zone” for all the fools that do not own guns.


3,391 posted on 10/21/2009 10:44:02 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7477

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Sequoia E-Voting Source Code Released on the Internet for Scrutiny
‘First-of-its-kind’ public project to probe ‘proprietary’ source code following FOIA release of company’s ‘vandalized’ code...

snipped...........[I figure it is going to come out, for this is a liberal blog...has hidden links in article...granny]

We could tell ya more, but the real geeks actually interested and able to dig into this project can get far more over at the wiki site, so please have at it and let us know when you’ve made heads or tails of things so we can call for an arrest warrant for Sequoia company President Jack Blaine!

Blaine, who The BRAD BLOG readers may recall, is Sequoia’s CEO. As we reported in in what we considered to be an extremely explosive investigate report last year, we caught him on a company-wide conference call to employees -— convened in response to another one of our exclusive investigative reports which broke the news that the nearly-bankrupt company was on the verge of a hostile takeover by another voting machine company -— admitting that his company doesn’t even own the intellectual property (IP) rights to their own voting systems as they have long been pretending.

Rather, those IP rights, for machines used across the U.S. electoral landscape, still belong to Smartmatic, a Venezuelan firm tied to Hugo Chavez. Sequoia had previously told federal investigators from the U.S. Treasury Department’s Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) that they had divested the Venezuelan-based firm. But, they didn’t. They lied. And Blaine continues to lie to local election officials about it, as we detailed in our May 2008 exclusive which nobody in the corporate MSM subsequently bothered to cover.

Those machines and their secret software are still in use today, and now, after years of trying, may finally receive at least a partial examination from the public who is forced to use them in their own public elections.

The BRAD BLOG covers your electoral system fiercely and independently, like no other media outlet in the nation.

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3,392 posted on 10/21/2009 11:11:45 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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[A communist plan tried and tested and will work again.

Are we following it again?
granny]

http://www.faminegenocide.com/resources/facts.html

Facts About the 1933 Famine-Genocide in Soviet Occupied Ukraine

1. Censuses

In late 1932 - precisely when the genocidal famine struck - the Central Statistical Bureau in Moscow ceased to publish demographic data.

The 1937 census was given top priority. The census director I. Kravel was awarded the Order of Lenin for his meticulous work. After the results of the 1937 census were submitted to the Government, the census was declared “subversive”, its materials destroyed and the top census officials were shot for not finding enough people.

2. Harvest and Climatic Conditions

The “natural disaster” excuse to cover up the 1933 Famine-Genocide does not hold water. It was not caused by some natural calamity or crop failure:

1. The 1931 harvest was 18.3 million tons of grain.
2. The 1932 harvest was 14.6 million tons of grain.
3. The 1933 harvest was 22.3 million tons of grain.
4. The 1934 harvest was 12.3 million tons of grain.

In 1934 during the poorest harvest - a mere 12.3 - there was no massive famine because Stalin reduced the grain requisition quotas and even released grain from existing “state stockpiles” to feed the population.

The highest death rates were in the grain growing provinces of Poltava, Dnipropetrovsk, Kirovohrad and Odessa: usually 20-25%, although higher in many villages.

3. Laws and Decrees

* The 7 August 1932 law drafted by Joseph Stalin on the protection of the socialist property stipulated the death penalty for “theft of socialist property”. Ukrainian villagers were executed by firing squads for theft of a sack of wheat and in some cases even for two sheaves of corn or a husk of grain.
* The 6 December 1932 decree stipulated a complete blockade of villages for allegedly sabotaging the grain procurement campaign - de facto sentencing their Ukrainian inhabitants to execution by starvation.
* An unpublished decree signed by Molotov encouraged Russian peasants to settle into the empty or half-empty villages of “the free lands of Ukraine” [and North Caucasus also inhabited by Ukrainians and likewise devastated by the famine].

4. Means of Implementing Forced Collectivization and Draconian Grain Requisition Quotas

* The All-Union Peoples Commissariat of Agriculture in Moscow initially mobilized some of its most reliable ‘25-thousanders’ -Party members, majority of them Russians - and sent them to Ukraine to organize collective farms.
* Further ‘thousanders,’ the army, the secret police [GPU], the militia and armed brigades were sent into Ukrainian villages to force the farmers into collective farms and to supervise the Draconian grain expropriation and eventually the entire output of butter, corn, sugar beet, etc.
* Local granaries in Ukraine held large stockpiles of ‘state reserves’ for emergencies, such as war, but the raging famine did not qualify as an emergency.

5. Geography of the Famine

* The 1933 Famine-Genocide was geographically focused for political ends. It stopped precisely at the Ukrainian-Russian ethnographic border.
* The borders of Ukraine were strictly patrolled by the military to prevent starving Ukrainians from crossing into Russia in search of bread.
* For example: The Kharkiv Province on the Ukrainian side was devastated while the contiguous Belgorod Province on the Russian side with similar climatic conditions and demographic profiles showed no evidence of starvation or any unusual mortality.
* Armed GPU officers were also stationed to prevent starving Ukrainians from entering the zone near the Polish and Romanian borders. Those who tried to cross the Dnister River into Romania were shot.

6. Exports

The Soviet regime dumped 1.7 million tons of grain on the Western markets at the height of the Famine. It exported nearly a quarter of a ton of grain for every Ukrainian who starved to death.

7. Victims and Losses

* At the height of the Famine Ukrainian villagers were dying at the rate of 25,000 per day or 1,000 per hour or 17 per minute.
* By comparison the Allied soldiers died at the rate of 6,000 per day during the Battle of Verdun.
* Among the children one in three perished as a consequence of collectivization and the famine.
* According to dissident Soviet demographer M. Maksudov “no fewer than three million children born between 1932-1933 died of hunger.”
* 80% of Ukrainian intellectuals were liquidated because they refused to collaborate in the extermination of their countrymen.
* Out of about 240 Ukrainian authors 200 were liquidated or disappeared. Out of about 84 linguists 62 perished.
* The Ukrainian population may have been reduced by as much as 25%.

8. Western Press Coverage

* Foreign correspondents were “advised” by the press department of the Soviet Commissariat for Foreign Affairs to remain in Moscow and were de facto barred from visiting Ukraine.
* Not a single Western newspaper or press agency protested publicly against the unprecedented confining of its correspondents in Moscow or bothered to investigate the reason for this extraordinary measure.
* The majority of reporters feared losing their journalistic privileges and toed the line.
* The only correspondents permitted into Ukraine were the likes of Walter Duranty of the New York Times who reported that there was no famine except for some “partial crop failures.”
* Star reporter Walter Duranty of the New York Times set the tone for most of the Western press coverage with authoritative denials of starvation and referred to the Famine as the “alleged ‘man-made’ famine of 1933.”
* However, according to British Diplomatic Reports, Duranty off the record, conceded that “as many as 10 million” may have perished.
* For his reporting Walter Duranty received the Pulitzer Prize for journalism. To this date the New York Times refuses to revoke the prize and still lists Duranty among its Pulitzer winners.

A number of intrepid reporters, such as William Henry Chamberlin, Harry Lang, Malcolm Muggeridge and Thomas Walker ignored the ban and reported on the Famine, substantiating their reports with photographs.

9. Collusion by Western Governments

Available archival evidence (such as reports sent in diplomatic pouches as well as coverage on the press by a few honest and courageous reporters who managed to penetrate into starving Ukraine) indicates that several Western governments (especially Great Britain, Canada and the United States) were well informed about the Famine-Genocide in Ukraine but chose to adopt a policy on non-interference in the internal affairs of a foreign sovereign state. Ironically, the United States recognized the Soviet Union in November, 1933.

Offers to aid the starving by numerous charitable organizations such as the International Red Cross, Save the Children Fund, the Vienna-based Interconfessional Relief Council and Ukrainian organizations in the West and Western Ukraine (occupied by Poland) were discouraged or blocked by their Governments.

10. Findings and Conclusions

The U.S. Congress 1988 Commission on the Ukraine famine in its “Investigation of the Ukraine Famine of 1932-1933” concluded that: JOSEPH STALIN AND THOSE AROUND HIM COMMITTED GENOCIDE AGAINST UKRAINIANS IN 1932-1933.

Sources consulted:

Conquest Robert - The Harvest of Sorrow. Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine. Edmonton: University of Alberta Press, 1986.

Dolot, Miron - Execution by Hunger: The Hidden Holocaust. New York: W. W. Norton, 1985.

Famine in Ukraine 1932-1933 - Edited by Roman Serbyn and Bohdan Kravchenko. Edmonton: Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies, 1986.


3,393 posted on 10/21/2009 11:22:33 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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[Part of the plan and how it will work..........?
granny]

http://faminegenocide.com/kuryliw/corn_law.htm

DECREE OF THE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT OF THE USSR:
“ON THE PROTECTION OF THE PROPERTY
OF STATE ENTERPRISES, COLLECTIVE FARMS, AND COOPERATIVES, AND ON THE CONSOLIDATION OF PUBLIC (SOCIALIST) PROPERTY”

7 August 1932

In the recent time we have received an increased number of complaints from workers and collective farmers about cargo theft from railway and river transport, as well as theft of property belonging to cooperative societies and collective farms, perpetrated by hoodlums and antisocial elements. There has also been an increasing number of complaints about coercion and threats from kulak elements aimed at those collective farmers who refuse to withdraw from collective farms and continue honestly and selflessly developing them.

The Central Executive Committee and the Soviet of People Commissars of the USSR believe that public property (belonging to the state, collective farms, and cooperative societies) is the foundation of the Soviet state system, that it is sacred and inviolable and that people attempting to obtain public property into their private possession should be considered enemies of the people. In view of this, an unrelenting struggle against thieves of public property is the foremost duty of Soviet government bodies.

On the basis of these considerations and in order to grant the requests of workers and collective farmers, the Central Executive Committee and the Soviet of People Commissars of the USSR have resolved:

I

1. Consider the importance of railway and river cargo equal to that of state property and reinforce cargo protection in every way.

2. As a measure of judicial repression for the theft of railway and river cargo, apply the highest measure of social protection—shooting and the confiscation of the entire property. Under extenuating circumstances, replace this measure with at least 10 years of imprisonment with the confiscation of property.

3. No amnesty to be applied to criminals guilty of cargo theft.

II

1. Consider the importance of property belonging to collective farms and cooperative societies (harvest in the field, public reserves, cattle, cooperative warehouses and stores, etc.) equal to that of state property and reinforce theft protection of this property in every way.

2. As a measure of judicial repression for the theft of property belonging to collective farms and cooperative societies, apply the highest measure of social protection—shooting and the confiscation of the entire property. Under mitigating circumstances, replace this measure with at least 10-year imprisonment with the confiscation of property.

3. No amnesty is to be applied to criminals guilty of stealing property belonging to collective farms and cooperative societies.

III

1. Conduct an unrelenting struggle against those antisocial kulak and capitalist elements which are using coercion and threats or advocate the application of coercion and threats to collective farmers in order to make them withdraw from collective farms and thus cause forcible disintegration of collective farms. Consider these crimes equal in gravity to treason.

2. In cases concerning the protection of collective farms and collective farm workers from coercion and threats from kulak and other antisocial elements, apply as measures of judicial repression five to ten years of imprisonment in concentration camps.

3. No amnesty to be applied to criminals found guilty in these cases.

_____________________

(Original document in Sobranie zakonov (Collection of Laws) 1932, reproduced in Tragediia sovetskoi derevni. Vol. 3. (Moscow, 2001) Pp. 453-454.



3,394 posted on 10/21/2009 11:34:46 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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http://faminegenocide.com/kuryliw/ban_on_travel.htm

DECREE OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY AND THE SOVIET GOVERNMENT PROHIBITING THE DEPARTURE OF STARVING PEASANTS FROM UKRAINE AND THE KUBAN

[On 22 January 1933, a secret circular was telegraphed from Moscow to Kharkiv, the capital of the Ukrainian SSR, and to Rostov-on-Don, Voronezh, Stalingrad, Samara, Smolensk and Minsk — administrative centres of Russian and Belarusian regions bordering on Ukraine. The document, recently discovered in Soviet archives, shows the national character of the genocidal policy pursued by the Kremlin. The target of the induced famine was the peasantry of Ukraine and the ethnically Ukrainian Kuban region of Northern Caucasus.]

The Central Committee of the All-Russian Communist Party and the Council of Commissars of the USSRhave received information that in the Kuban and Ukraine a massive departure of peasants “in search of bread” has begun into the [Russian] Central-Black Earth region, the Volga region, the Western and Moscow regions, and into Belorussia. The Central Committee of the All-Russian Communist Party and the Council of Commissars of the USSR do not doubt that this departure of peasants, like the departure from Ukraine last year, was organized by the enemies of Soviet power, the Socialist Revolutionaries and the agents of Poland, with the goal of agitation “through the peasants” in the northern regions of the USSR against the collective farms and against Soviet power as a whole. Last year the Party, Soviet and Chekist organs of Ukraine were caught napping by this counter-revolutionary trick of the enemies of Soviet power. This year we cannot allow a repetition of last year’s mistake.

First. The Central Committee of the All-Russian Communist Party and the Council of Commissars of the USSR order the Regional Committees of the Party, the Regional Executive Committees and the Plenipotentiary of the OGPU [political police] of Northern Caucasus not to allow massive departure of peasants from the Northern Caucasus into other regions, or the entry into the Northern Caucasus from Ukraine.

Second. The Central Committee of the All-Russian Communist Party and the Council of Commissars order the Central Committee of the Ukrainian SSR, as well as V. A. Balitskii [Moscow’s OGPU agent in Ukraine] and [S. F.] Redens [head of the Ukrainian GPU], not to allow a massive outfow of peasants from Ukraine into other regions or the entry into Ukraine of peasants from the North Caucasus.

Third. The Central Committee of the All-Russian Communist Party and the Council of Commissars order the Plenipotentiary of the OGPU of the Moscow region, Central-Black Earth region, Western region, Belarus, Lower and Middle Volga regions, to immediately arrest all “peasants” of Ukraine and the North Caucasus who have broken throught into the north and, after separating out the counter-revolutionary elements, to return the rest to their places of residence.

Fourth. The Central Committee of the All-Russian Communist Party and the Council of Commissars order Porokhov of the Transport Section of the GPU to give a similar order to the OGPU transport organs.

Chairman of the Council of Commissars of the USSR: V. M. Molotov Secretary of the Central Committee of the Pan-Russian Communist Party: J. Stalin


Index of other important articles:

http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=47313928&w=0&p=0


3,395 posted on 10/21/2009 11:37:34 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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http://thecomingdepression.blogspot.com/2009/02/jim-sinclair-it-is-totally-out-of.html

A History of Executive Orders

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA’s Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA’s role as a “new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis.” FEMA’s powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the...

National Security Act of 1947 allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities.

1950 Defense Production Act gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy.

Act of August 29, 1916 authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency.

International Emergency Economic Powers Actenables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.


Homepage, with news:

http://thecomingdepression.blogspot.com/


3,396 posted on 10/21/2009 12:36:26 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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http://tribes.tribe.net/survivalcache/thread/975d34ba-a91f-49db-b889-790005448955

I make PVC-tube buried caches

topic posted Wed, March 11, 2009 - 6:45 AM by Jim
About a year ago, after I had cashed out my Simple IRA and converted to gold and silver (boy am I glad I did that!), I decided my home was not the safest place to keep it.

I split my loot up into several off-site buried caches using one-foot sections of Schedule-40 PVC pipe with a cap for each end glued on with PVC cement. By pushing the second cap onto the end I found I was compressing the air inside so I had to use a lot of pressure to send it all the way home, give it a quarter turn, and hold it in place till the cement grabbed. This design approach requires sawing the tube open to retrieve the contents.

I reasoned this approach was better than a home safe. I’ve watched how huge, multi-ton logs are yanked off logging blocks up onto the landing and it would be nothing for a big truck to back in, the driver run a big choker cable in through a smashed house window and around my safe, then yank it right through the walls, floor-bolts and all, where it could be winched onto the truck. Five minutes is all it would take.

My rationale was that I needed to protect my assets against not only theft but confiscation, recalling that FDR had ordered gold turn-in by the public during the last great depression. Do I trust my government or what!

I then began to have increasing concerns that a major gun-grab might be in the works and resolved to make a few longer, larger-diameter tubes, one of which would contain a semiautomatic rifle and lots of ammo. While at work on this project I discovered that LOTS of people shared this concern so I thought there might be a market for such tubes. Not only that, the market could only get better the closer we got to Armageddon, a great depression business maybe.

Anyway, I completed my project with a few design changes: sealed, threaded plug on one end, heat-sealed Mylar bag liner, oxygen absorbers, and some adaptations for tightening and loosening the threaded plug, which, in this larger diameter, required a great deal of torque due to the sticky wax sealant I used. I took great care in burying this and my other caches in order to leave no tell-tale trace of disturbed earth. I choose a spot that nobody probably walks over for years at a time, maybe decades.

I eventually decided to make a business venture out of my idea and made an array of sizes with my new design approach and began marketing them. My Web site even contains tips on how people can make their own. The detailed use instructions with photos are worth a read as well. See www.preparednessequipment.com.

I plan to bury other things as well. If civil unrest and food shortages result in martial law, food storage will be classified as food hoarding. It will be illegal not to turn extra food you have over to the authorities. Add this to the danger of desperate, starving people conducting an armed raid on your stored food supplies. I therefore plan to sock away several tubes of foodstuffs in good ole’ terra firma. In addition, pending severe supply interruptions, alcoholics and cigarette addicts might find themselves cut off. They would do anything for a smoke or a drink. There may be some officials in this boat that you will need to bribe and a buried stash of liquor and cigarettes could be your ticket NOT to ride to the FEMA death camps (or substitute your own conspiracy idea ;-).

In case I need to flee on foot, I have made a number of short-term survival caches with power bars, money, pain-killers, fresh socks, fire-starter, clip-on flashlight and a light rain poncho among other items. I also want to bury some emergency temporary shelter materials: rope, cord, a roll of 6-mil polyethylene. I’ve got shelter for myself in my bug-out bag in case I need to spend a few months in the woods but only a few of us are prepared. If I want to help others, a roll of plastic would be invaluable.
posted by:
Jim


3,397 posted on 10/21/2009 12:41:18 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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http://tribes.tribe.net/survivalcache/thread/4f6d18c3-626c-49a4-9c50-cd4bca3bfb0e

My thoughts on Multitools

topic posted Mon, May 19, 2008 - 12:58 AM by

I see a lot of like minded (to me) people and they talk about how important a pair of pliers are in a survival situation and how they think multitools are gereat things to have at that time. Well I have a fairly good multitool and a very cheap multitool. both have pliers of varying quiality the expensoive pair has pliers that are almost as good as a set of needle nose pliers but I have to say that most of the other tools in the multi tool, the knives, the saw, the file are not as good as one of those tools in a single tool mode. I came to the conclusion that if you needed a tool on a multitool that the multitool version of that tool was better than not having the tool at all. However If you’re building a cache, cache the genuine item.

I found out to make sheaths for knves so I could make sheaths for pliers and screwdrives and other tools so I could have them all on my belt.

A tool roll up case will fit just fine in a pack and having a decentr tool kit will put you leaps ahead in the game. Heck I bet simple tool kits will be very good trade goods when EOW comes. 2 philips and 2 flat screwdrivers a pair of channel locks, a hammer will probably worth their weight in gold. Now let me say in closing I don’t dislike multitools, I just think that if you’re making a cache, cache real tools. Multitools are something you wear on your belt for convience.


3,398 posted on 10/21/2009 12:49:11 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

Welcome back! Tell your son ‘congratulations and thank you for your service’ from us. I know the pride you felt as you watched the graduation ceremony. Where was your son’s training location? We came out to San Diego for our son’s graduation.


3,399 posted on 10/21/2009 1:48:01 PM PDT by Marmolade
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[I need a nap, so will post the links, looks interesting and helpful...granny]

equipment for canning and storing -sources:

http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?board=59.0

Food storage, index to threads:

http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?board=57.0

Index to threads, survival and preparedness:

http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?board=5.0

Podcasts:

http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?board=50.0

Main index, everything from food to weapons...:

http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=4749f7aea1cc3d46a76613be905507d3;


3,400 posted on 10/21/2009 1:54:53 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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