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Show it, step down, or be removed by force

Posted on 07/22/2009 7:22:24 PM PDT by Grig

Why don't he Joint Chiefs go to Obama and say "Sir, you must either present a valid full form birth certificate, step down, or we will remove you from office by force."

Isn't it their duty to do something like that? Isn't their accepting orders from Obama potentially carrying out illegal orders?


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To: Houghton M.
Neither is Honduras a a military dictatorship. That is just the line state-run media used because Obama is a Chavez-Ortega supporter. The Honduras Supreme Court ordered Zelaya removed, in concert with Honduras’ legislature because he blatantly defied their constitution by calling for, and organizing a referendum, which would likely have been fixed by their Acorn, to claim a second, third, fourth, ... term in office. In Honduras there is a one-term limit on presidents. Honduras' Army defends and protects their constitution (haven't I heard that somewhere before?). It did its job. They could, and perhaps should, have indicted Zelaya (or impeached, whatever is consistent with their laws). Look at the trouble he's causing in concert with Chavez, Obama and Clinton. He will get people killed.
41 posted on 07/22/2009 7:40:23 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Colonial Warrior
I would say there are other records from mr 0bama’s past that are as important as his birth certificate.
42 posted on 07/22/2009 7:41:04 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: smokingfrog

>Not their job.

Wrong, every service-member takes an oath to the CONSTITUTION, which is what gives the President authority over the armed forces. If a person is not qualified to hold the office of President, how can the President be named the Commander-in-Chief?

Read this analysis of the oath that Army enlisted take:
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dv698tm_25c7b35cc9


43 posted on 07/22/2009 7:41:53 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Tax Government

“Good evening. As your president, I want to call attention to an event in the recent past that troubles me. As you may know, I am legally unqualified to be president, as I was not born in the United States as the Constitution requires. By electing me anyway, you have demonstrated incompetence in managing your affairs. I have therefore signed an order declaring you all of diminished mental capacity. From this day forward I will manage the country on your behalf. You no longer have anything to think or worry about. You are to relax and be happy. (Doctors’ orders.) Please, hold the applause.”


44 posted on 07/22/2009 7:42:10 PM PDT by Tax Government (Sarah NOW.)
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To: montanajoe

Having a fraudulent marxist stooge as the faux CIC is even worse.


45 posted on 07/22/2009 7:42:10 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Grig
Because that is not their function. That is the Secret Services job to do. Short of a mad man as POTUS planning an unprovoked nuke strike I don't want an active duty member of the armed forces doing such. We have a Constitution which defines our government's duties and what powers it actually holds. The specifications, limits, and protocols written in it need to be enforced by congress. If congress refuses to uphold the Constitution then it is the duty of We The People to remove that congress.
46 posted on 07/22/2009 7:43:10 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgement? Which one say ye?)
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To: Grig

Well, a group of military leaders and Senators once did take action when the Constitution was trampled and states’ rights violated. It was called the Civil War. Today, a Kenyan tramples it but none of the luminaries in the Pentagon or the Congress has the cojones to take a stand against it.


47 posted on 07/22/2009 7:43:15 PM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: tips up

Well the rest of DC is living in some fantasy land -why not novel land?


48 posted on 07/22/2009 7:44:06 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Salamander
If Obama is not constitutionally eligible to be President, then Joe Biden’s term would have started on January 20, 2009. We know Biden is an American citizen, and in case the President-elect is unable to become President before his term starts, the Vice-President-elect becomes President. Since Cabinet officials are confirmed by the Senate, I could see an embarrassing number of re-signatures to legislation passed since then, but nothing would remove the validity of the constitutional President.

Like Britain, we never have an interrex. Someone in the U.S. always has the power of the Presidency, right until the last Cabinet official is exhausted. And the Senate confirms candidates.

49 posted on 07/22/2009 7:44:23 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: Grig

“Isn’t their accepting orders from Obama potentially carrying out illegal orders?”

If Obama is not qualified, “potentially” carrying out illegal orders is hardly the word for such a situation.

If unqualified, I would assume everything he did in office would be be null and void, illegal, and so on.


50 posted on 07/22/2009 7:44:34 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Grig

I wonder what Jack Bauer would do in this situation?


51 posted on 07/22/2009 7:44:52 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Grig

As good as it sounds, the main problem with the idea is all of our generals in all the services have integrity far, far higher than the loon and his minions.

The loon will make his “big error” sooner or later. Hopefully sooner.

I eagerly await the results.


52 posted on 07/22/2009 7:45:51 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Grig

Keep your eye on the ball which is getting this dufus out of office come 2012, and not keep this side show act going.


53 posted on 07/22/2009 7:47:29 PM PDT by sjm_888
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To: Errant
"Any party who knowing violated a requirement of the constitution should expect to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."

Agreed- but NOT by the Joint Chiefs. As I suggested, that is the duty of the Congress, possibly with SCOTUS involvement.

54 posted on 07/22/2009 7:47:44 PM PDT by matthew fuller (FUBHO)
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To: BCW

I took the same oath as a federal employee.


55 posted on 07/22/2009 7:47:52 PM PDT by mom4melody
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To: Grig

You said — Why don’t he Joint Chiefs go to Obama and say “Sir, you must either present a valid full form birth certificate, step down, or we will remove you from office by force.”

I was posting earlier today about what particular ideas make up the “Obama Derangement Syndrome” and I’ll have to say that this is *one of them*... as I’ve posted on it before.

There are variations to this particular theme, which makes up one of the “planks” in the “platform” of the Obama Derangement Syndrome.

One variation and I hear this a few times now and again. It’s that the military should surround the White House with tanks and demand that the President be removed from office or they will take military action against him.

And this variation that you present is like it. It’s the military taking action against the President, when the person in that office holds the position of Commander in Chief. Instead, the generals oust the Commander in Chief... LOL...

That’s a Banana Republic and I didn’t think we had descended into a banana republic mentality, but I may be wrong... :-)

I’m also reminded of the many statements made by our leaders in which we have told the world how we have a system by which we don’t change governments by force or coups and/or the military making the decisions and enforcing it upon the public.

AND... right here, we’ve got the idea which totally contradicts what our leaders have said in the past about our country. Perhaps we do have military coups here — or at least, we have military coups *promoted* as the way to solve our political problems and/or whatever else comes from those political problems... LOL...

At any rate *this* is one plank of the platform of the Obama Derangement Syndrome...


56 posted on 07/22/2009 7:48:13 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Domandred

“In our current climate I think even if Obama did something like declare himself the first United States Emporer the house and senate would confirm him.”

I disagree. If nothing else, enough Blue Dogs and RINO’s would p*ss on him to wash him out of office.


57 posted on 07/22/2009 7:48:26 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Grig

Seven Days in May? Ain’t gonna happen.


58 posted on 07/22/2009 7:48:46 PM PDT by mort56 (He who would sacrifice freedom for security deserves neither. - Ben Franklin)
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To: sjm_888
Keep your eye on the ball which is getting this dufus out of office come 2012,

We may not last that long.

59 posted on 07/22/2009 7:49:01 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Grig

No one has enforced the constitution yet. If the courts don’t, it will rest on the military or the people.


60 posted on 07/22/2009 7:49:24 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport and school records.)
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