Posted on 07/13/2009 8:48:39 PM PDT by FARS
Obama eligibility case will be heard on the merits !! Please distribute everywhere.
At the hearing today at the Federal Court building in Santa Ana, Judge Carter reportedly said the following: 1. There will be a trial. 2. It will be heard on the merits. 3. Nothing will be dismissed on proceedural issues. 4. The trial will be expeditious, and the judge pledged to give case priority. 5. Being a former Marine he realizes the importance of having a Constitutionally qualified POTUS/CINC. 6. Judge stated that if Obama isn't Constitutionally qualifed he needs to leave the White House.
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My husband said something that cracked me up: Obama, just limping along trying to suck less. I LOL’ed.
It’s significantly harder to fund a project like a “Presidential Library” when you get that title stripped from you. Even more so when sitting in Jail.
>So Keyes ran for President, but Obama won. Keyes sues claiming Obama is ineligible. If Keyes wins, DOES THAT MAKE HIM (KEYES) PRESIDENT? ;-)<
unfortunately no.
Biden would be. But still better than zero
John123 raises several questions some of which have been previously addressed.
As to this one, Wiki is correct. Although the issue has been discussed in professional periodicals and among the Constitutional bar on a number of occasions.
The term "natural born citizen" arises from an English Common law term "natural born subject" which is pretty clearly defined from a legal point of view as meaning a person who is born subject to the sovereignty of the ruler of the place where he was born.
Only change in the US Constitution was to substitute "citizen" for "subject" because we don't have subjects but only citizens. And done that way because the framer's thought we shouldn't have a chief executive who was subject to the ruler ship of some non-US sovereign.
Born in Keyna, Obama is subject to the sovereignty of Kenya at the time he was born (the English king I assume); born in Panama, McCain was in the same boat with respect to the government of Panama.
The issue has been discussed extensively in my own history at the time Goldwater was nominated. At the time, my sense of it was that the Constitutional lawyers I knew--the Con Law professors at my law school; etc.; thought that Goldwater probably qualified because Arizona was admitted to the Union after he was born there when it was a territory.
I have posted that several times but ran into a lawyer in DC several months ago who had seen that comment and knew I had posted it and who told me that the Dems were set to challenge Goldwater--there might have in fact been another sovereign (over the Arizona territory prior to statehood) and thus Goldwater wouldn't have passed either. That was abandoned when it was clear Goldwater didn't have any chance to win.
There is I believe, an issue as to who the President is if Obama is kicked out. No President is yet qualified for the current term. Joe acts until someone is qualified.
i *think* that her motion to default is being heard if i understand that right.
if her motion is granted (based upon procedure) then she can get it into trial and it will be heard.
So i don’t think that they can knock out the pins from under her with the “no standing” issue now. That would have had to have been filed - she may have bypassed that now with this default of no answer.
If he was found to have been properly served in the first place, they blew their chance for no standing
that is my understanding of this, which I may be entirely wrong, but more information from her blog should be forthcoming.
I just hope that the truth comes out, his records are shown.
It will be ugly in the states if he is removed on the streets i am sure, but for the sake of our nation, the constitution and a true republic if we have to face that burden then so be it.
>If they let it slide, the next foreign born to seek the presidency would be able to run for President and be POTUS. We should run someone who is foreign born in the next election so that it can all come out.<
Nope, I still think we need to adhere to what our founding fathers wanted. They were right and Obama has shown us exactly why they did what they did.
his apology tour made me physically sick.
Orley does get excited and sometimes reads in between the lines incorrectly. I don’t think she is the greatest scholar, but if it makes it to court she will have others to help like berg etc. Some really good minds I am sure will offer their assistance.
I think as i posted previously that this is now a hearing to see if procedure was followed in the original service. If it was then the usual “standing” question may be moot. They would have had to file that in the time period that expired.
This hearing may be the one that allows the case to go forward IF she crossed all her “t”’s and dotted all her I’s.
She is a pit bull that won’t let go, I give her that.
And the Constitution needs to be enforced as long as one true American still has blood being pushed through their heart!
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!!!!!!!!
Unbelievable, supporting Joe "Foot" Biden, huh, are you totally out of your mind???
....ummmm, somebody should have told President Ford when he picked Gov. Nelson Rockefeller.
Amen, and amen!!!
>All of the fraudulent material that’s been published on websites is disappearing fast, probably at Obama’s legal teams’ insistence. They cannot afford to have forgeries or fraudulent documents submitted before the court if the judge rules for discovery.<
I thought the same thing. It happened fast this week.
Not to mention that they scrubbed the way backs etc.
I took screen shots of everything, i am sure that Orley did too.
It is “best evidence” time, they can’t escape it. It’s too late they buried themselves in the hopes that it would never get to court and be challenged.
“...The TOTUS fell apart yesterday, ominously....”
Will there be a state funeral for TOTUS? there should be. After all, look at all it has done for thie country.
RIP TOTUS.
Legal papers filed yesterday...posted here.
From what I can tell Obama’s BC is a convenient kill switch for the puppet masters who put him in power. When he is past his usefulness, they (The Media) will stop ignoring it and demand an explanation on it and it won’t take but a few weeks before their favorite puppet is forced to resign.
We found the kill switch, but they are preventing us from pressing it by keeping the clear plastic shield cover down over the switch.
I believe it possible that it may go to the second place finisher... It is possible.
If you question it, simply push the abuse button and let the moderators decide.
>Once the answer is filed, you KNOW they will move to dismiss on a variety of legal grounds. That will invite a round or two of briefing. The judge could conclude from those briefs that there are or are not grounds to proceed.
But I’d bet dollars to donuts that he did NOT say that the case will now proceed on its merits.<
correct me if i am wrong, i may well be. But if she gets the default then the arguments to dismiss can not be presented at this late time. That was the whole point i think???
This just slipped through the cracks of the Obama legal team and they can’t use the same tactics to keep it out of the courts as they have been.
if that is the case, then him saying that the case will proceed on it’s merits is only saying that he will hear the case and that the technicality of “standing” has been passed.
>I respectfully disagree...her appointment was HER ace in the hole.
Remember when Rahm took that trip over there, and everyone speculated he was trying to silence the family on Obama’s behalf? I think he’s still working for Hillary. The Clinton’s are ruthless, and whatever the truth is, she knows.
Don’t think for a moment it’s a coincidence that so many Clintonites are back in the White House. She’s got the goods, and she has the eyes and the ears of those who would do her bidding.
She will not be denied the presidency. She thinks she’s entitled to it. Blackmail is nothing for these degenerates.<
You may be right to some degrees here. I can’t believe that she just laid down like she appears to have. And Bill has been far too quiet and he hated Obama.
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