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H1N1 aka the Mexican Flu
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Posted on 07/12/2009 5:01:28 PM PDT by tall_tex

More of this H1N1 pandemic keeps getting into the news.

How should a couple of older folks prepare (66 & 65).


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: flu; h1n1; influenza; mexicanflu; swineflu
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I know I need food, water, guns and ammunition.

I have some food set away and will get more, plus more water and water purification stuff.

Guns and ammunition, lost all I had to the lake when by boat overturned while I was fighting to land a 12 lb Large Mouth Bass. The boat actually tipped over when I dove into the water to grab that fish when my reel froze up.

Not a great trade my guns and ammo for a fish, but it will look great when it comes back from being mounted.

I am mostly thinking about over the counter meds, cold and flu stuff, and thoughts about germ killing cleaning, and stuff to protect the individual. (masks, etc)

I am trying to convince my wife that a simi trailer load of Bud would be a great medical deterent, but sadly she is not buying that.

Convincing suggestions on that would also get GREATLY APPRECIATED...

I am sorry that I can't stay and play but we have a commitment tonight.

I think that the list of things would greatly be appreciated by all FReepers.

1 posted on 07/12/2009 5:01:28 PM PDT by tall_tex
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To: tall_tex

A good overall site is

http://www.survivalblog.com

Many good tips and vendors for various useful products

(J.W., Rawles the owner of the site also wrote an excellent SHTF novel, “Patriots”)


2 posted on 07/12/2009 5:18:07 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: tall_tex

You might want to read about the connection between influenza and Vitamin D deficiencies. Check out The Vitamin D Council for more information.

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/


3 posted on 07/12/2009 5:19:07 PM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: LucyT

Ping!


4 posted on 07/12/2009 5:19:18 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: tall_tex

you may have had a similar flu earlier in life.


5 posted on 07/12/2009 5:21:27 PM PDT by ken21 (i am not voting for a rino-progressive.)
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To: tall_tex

So a vaccine is, like, out of the question?

Oh and I know......many here believe that vaccines are evil.


6 posted on 07/12/2009 5:34:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A new Dark Ages made all the more terrible and prolonged by the sinister powers of science.")
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To: tall_tex

You can buy Tamiflu from International Antiaging Systems without a prescription (ships from Europe).

Oddly, you should have some Tagamet (cimetidine is the generic). It can disrupt the cytokine storm that destroys your lungs. Don’t take it until you experience EXTREME respiratory distress.

Life Extension Foundation, Vitamin Research Products, and Durk Pearson’s website all have good articles on surviving the flu.


7 posted on 07/12/2009 5:35:58 PM PDT by darth
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To: tall_tex
It's the “Mexican Swine” flu. It only seems to hit the younger and older populations. Boomers seem to be more immune. Try to stay away from the general population as well as you can until the fall when a vaccine will be available.
8 posted on 07/12/2009 5:36:06 PM PDT by LiberConservative
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To: tall_tex

Regarding masks— most of the kinds shown on people in news footage for this are not adequate to prevent the H1N1 virus from passing through it. I.e., the kind of masks they want you to put on in the waiting room of clinics if you have a cough or the surgical ones with a tie at each corner.

The kind that you need are called N95, also used when around TB. However, those really need to be fit tested, and aren’t 100% reliable if there are any gaps at all— there needs to be a seal.

More info here—

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/masks.htm

and the following quote is from here— http://lungcancer.einnews.com/pr-news/30631-h1n1-flu-scare-prompts-questions :

“What is less known is that this performance is only valid when the N95’s have been properly fit tested2. Fit testing must be done in a test environment, which is no assurance that the mask is properly fit when in actual use. Actual on the job working efficiencies for those that pass a fit test are difficult to maintain.”

—Just worried that a lot of folks are lulled into a false sense of security with masks...


9 posted on 07/12/2009 5:48:16 PM PDT by green pastures
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To: tall_tex
1) Vitamin D3

2) 2 grams of Vitamin C every 24 hours

3) Echinacea

4) Avoid airplanes, mall, schools, and other human feedlots.


A verbis ad verbera

10 posted on 07/12/2009 6:15:58 PM PDT by Costumed Vigilante (Congress: When a handful of evil morons just isn't enough)
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To: tall_tex; Slings and Arrows

Get Pandemic Ready recommends each household have three months of food, water (or purification capability), medications, and basic supplies on hand.

List here:
http://www.getpandemicready.org/

(Thanks, Slings and Arrows.)


11 posted on 07/12/2009 6:47:24 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: tall_tex

It seems to me you are losing your focus. H1N1 is the problem. It is a disease. So your options are avoiding the disease, and protecting yourself from the disease, and if need be, trying to mitigate the effects of the disease. Shooting the disease with a gun won’t help.

Don’t fret so much about society collapsing because of Swine flu. If it was full blown H5N1 Avian flu, I would be concerned, but Swine flu, at its absolute worst, will be like an ordinary, if bad, flu season.

To start with, there are two likely ways you could catch Swine flu, coughing and sneezing, and hand contamination. Flu and colds spread the easiest by coughing and sneezing when it is 40F and dry. When it is warmer and moister, flu becomes more reliant on hand contamination. So be aware of the weather and act accordingly.

About the only way to avoid catching the flu by coughing and sneezing is avoidance of sick people, if at all possible. While this is obvious, there are times when you just have to go out in public, so become a bit more “standoffish”. Importantly, the people you most want to avoid are school age children, as they spread disease the most.

When it is warmer and moister out, your best defense is to carry with you and use hand sanitizer. It is now estimated that if you have to be out in public during an epidemic, where hand contamination is spreading the disease, if you use hand sanitizer six times a day, you will reduce your chances of catching the flu by 60% or more.

Importantly, ordinary soap and water is almost as good, and actually preferred when there is obvious muck on your hands. Anti-bacterial soap is not particularly better than just ordinary soap, so don’t fret it if ordinary soap is all you have.

Don’t wait until flu is “in your neighborhood” before start taking these simple precautions. Flu has an incubation period when it spreads, before it becomes obvious, so you are at risk from healthy looking people days before their symptoms show.


12 posted on 07/12/2009 7:13:44 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: LucyT

De nada.


13 posted on 07/12/2009 8:04:04 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: tall_tex

Have a supply of this http://www.oscillo.com/ on hand. I have seen it work twice on documented flu. Don’t understand or care how it works, I won’t be without it.


14 posted on 07/13/2009 4:59:43 AM PDT by nicolezmomma
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To: Palladin; Smokin' Joe; LucyT; MarMema; Domestic Church; azishot; Oorang; WestCoastGal; TaraP; ...

ping


15 posted on 07/13/2009 9:53:46 AM PDT by DvdMom
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To: DvdMom

New flu resembles feared 1918 virus: study

http://tinyurl.com/nz75fd


16 posted on 07/13/2009 10:00:49 AM PDT by LucyT ("I used to look forward to Christmas but now I look forward to karma.")
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To: tall_tex

Some good informative sites On H1N1

Here is a site with an interesting interactive map with the latest h1n1 articles.

http://outbreaks.globalincidentmap.com/home.php
Attached Images outbreaks.jpg (63.9 KB, 42 views)

Great Site A+

Pandemic Alert

from you can find news reports , numbers , etc.. found here very intersting website .

Just click to get on the main forum

http://www.singtomeohmuse.com/viewtopic.php?t=3232&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=705

Another Good Site

Link where article came from

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/

Another Great Site Just Go the the last page of the thread

Here ia a link to another site with good info on the flu

Comprehensive Flu Thread, Latest reports, States, Countries, Closings.

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=330395&page=59


17 posted on 07/13/2009 10:01:57 AM PDT by DvdMom
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To: DvdMom; appleseed; nw_arizona_granny

Could you also ping appleseed and nw_arizona_granny to these threads? They hold survival ping lists and post survival type threads.

I see this as a survival type issue. People need to be prepared to be able to avoid as much contact as possible with others should this get out of hand.


18 posted on 07/13/2009 1:18:47 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping! (Thanks, DvdMom!)


19 posted on 07/13/2009 7:20:42 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: metmom; Smokin' Joe; appleseed; nw_arizona_granny

Freeper Smokin’ Joe does the H1N1 / Swine flu / Avian Flu ping list .

I Asked him to add you metmom to the ping list .

Smokin’ Joe please also add freepers appleseed & nw_arizona_granny to the flu ping list .


20 posted on 07/13/2009 9:14:44 PM PDT by DvdMom
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