2) 2 grams of Vitamin C every 24 hours
3) Echinacea
4) Avoid airplanes, mall, schools, and other human feedlots.
A verbis ad verbera
I have some food set away and will get more, plus more water and water purification stuff.
Guns and ammunition, lost all I had to the lake when by boat overturned while I was fighting to land a 12 lb Large Mouth Bass. The boat actually tipped over when I dove into the water to grab that fish when my reel froze up.
Not a great trade my guns and ammo for a fish, but it will look great when it comes back from being mounted.
I am mostly thinking about over the counter meds, cold and flu stuff, and thoughts about germ killing cleaning, and stuff to protect the individual. (masks, etc)
I am trying to convince my wife that a simi trailer load of Bud would be a great medical deterent, but sadly she is not buying that.
Convincing suggestions on that would also get GREATLY APPRECIATED...
I am sorry that I can't stay and play but we have a commitment tonight.
I think that the list of things would greatly be appreciated by all FReepers.
A good overall site is
Many good tips and vendors for various useful products
(J.W., Rawles the owner of the site also wrote an excellent SHTF novel, “Patriots”)
You might want to read about the connection between influenza and Vitamin D deficiencies. Check out The Vitamin D Council for more information.
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/
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you may have had a similar flu earlier in life.
So a vaccine is, like, out of the question?
Oh and I know......many here believe that vaccines are evil.
You can buy Tamiflu from International Antiaging Systems without a prescription (ships from Europe).
Oddly, you should have some Tagamet (cimetidine is the generic). It can disrupt the cytokine storm that destroys your lungs. Don’t take it until you experience EXTREME respiratory distress.
Life Extension Foundation, Vitamin Research Products, and Durk Pearson’s website all have good articles on surviving the flu.
Regarding masks— most of the kinds shown on people in news footage for this are not adequate to prevent the H1N1 virus from passing through it. I.e., the kind of masks they want you to put on in the waiting room of clinics if you have a cough or the surgical ones with a tie at each corner.
The kind that you need are called N95, also used when around TB. However, those really need to be fit tested, and aren’t 100% reliable if there are any gaps at all— there needs to be a seal.
More info here—
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/masks.htm
and the following quote is from here— http://lungcancer.einnews.com/pr-news/30631-h1n1-flu-scare-prompts-questions :
“What is less known is that this performance is only valid when the N95’s have been properly fit tested2. Fit testing must be done in a test environment, which is no assurance that the mask is properly fit when in actual use. Actual on the job working efficiencies for those that pass a fit test are difficult to maintain.”
—Just worried that a lot of folks are lulled into a false sense of security with masks...
2) 2 grams of Vitamin C every 24 hours
3) Echinacea
4) Avoid airplanes, mall, schools, and other human feedlots.
Get Pandemic Ready recommends each household have three months of food, water (or purification capability), medications, and basic supplies on hand.
List here:
http://www.getpandemicready.org/
(Thanks, Slings and Arrows.)
It seems to me you are losing your focus. H1N1 is the problem. It is a disease. So your options are avoiding the disease, and protecting yourself from the disease, and if need be, trying to mitigate the effects of the disease. Shooting the disease with a gun won’t help.
Don’t fret so much about society collapsing because of Swine flu. If it was full blown H5N1 Avian flu, I would be concerned, but Swine flu, at its absolute worst, will be like an ordinary, if bad, flu season.
To start with, there are two likely ways you could catch Swine flu, coughing and sneezing, and hand contamination. Flu and colds spread the easiest by coughing and sneezing when it is 40F and dry. When it is warmer and moister, flu becomes more reliant on hand contamination. So be aware of the weather and act accordingly.
About the only way to avoid catching the flu by coughing and sneezing is avoidance of sick people, if at all possible. While this is obvious, there are times when you just have to go out in public, so become a bit more “standoffish”. Importantly, the people you most want to avoid are school age children, as they spread disease the most.
When it is warmer and moister out, your best defense is to carry with you and use hand sanitizer. It is now estimated that if you have to be out in public during an epidemic, where hand contamination is spreading the disease, if you use hand sanitizer six times a day, you will reduce your chances of catching the flu by 60% or more.
Importantly, ordinary soap and water is almost as good, and actually preferred when there is obvious muck on your hands. Anti-bacterial soap is not particularly better than just ordinary soap, so don’t fret it if ordinary soap is all you have.
Don’t wait until flu is “in your neighborhood” before start taking these simple precautions. Flu has an incubation period when it spreads, before it becomes obvious, so you are at risk from healthy looking people days before their symptoms show.
Have a supply of this http://www.oscillo.com/ on hand. I have seen it work twice on documented flu. Don’t understand or care how it works, I won’t be without it.
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Some good informative sites On H1N1
Here is a site with an interesting interactive map with the latest h1n1 articles.
http://outbreaks.globalincidentmap.com/home.php
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Great Site A+
Pandemic Alert
from you can find news reports , numbers , etc.. found here very intersting website .
Just click to get on the main forum
http://www.singtomeohmuse.com/viewtopic.php?t=3232&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=705
Another Good Site
Link where article came from
Another Great Site Just Go the the last page of the thread
Here ia a link to another site with good info on the flu
Comprehensive Flu Thread, Latest reports, States, Countries, Closings.
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=330395&page=59
H1N1 is definitely hitting Orange County, CA right now.
One family I know just had 3 out of 4 members get it within the last week. And one family I know just had the first member get it today. These families don’t mingle with each other. Their doctors are saying they are seeing it really swing around these parts.
Now for the good news: the ones on Tamiflu (adults AND kids) seemed to have 1 or 2 high fever nights, but virtually no other symptoms except body aches. None of them had any respiratory symptoms at all. I do not not if that was because Tamiflu prevented them, but NO RESPIRATORY SYMPTOMS. Even the little one not on Tamiflu has no respiratory symptoms.
The people who are now well are FINE. They had maybe 1-2 days in bed and then one draggy day. The kids are running around and doing well. The one little child who just got it today has a fever of 103.8 but is sitting on her couch asking for ice cream.
I don’t know if this is just a laid-back California strain compared to what they are getting hit with in London, but it is not all that bad. And yes, this flu is the H1N1. It’s the only influenza going around this summer here.
I am actually a little frightened about this flu after reading about the 6 yo in England who came down with a sore throat and died 48 hours later. She didn’t have any other “underlying conditions.”
You might checked out Preparedness Pro, http://preparednesspro.wordpress.com, who has written a few articles on the topic. She pointed out that those N95 face masks can only be worn one time each. If someone in your family were quarantined over several days, you would need a mask each time you went into their room. The masks are just about 50 cents each, or a little less, online.
Another good blog is Avian Flu Diary, http://afludiary.blogspot.com/ and In Case of Emergency blo, http://incaseofemergencyblog.com/.
Maybe I’m being paranoid, but I’m actually terrified of whatever vaccine the government comes up with. I just don’t trust them to get it right and think the vaccine may be worse than getting the flu, but that’s my paranoia speaking there.
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Go for the vaccination and look for a resurgence of this organism next fall/winter. A few mutations could increase the virulence and the contagiousness of this virus. Environmental conditions change when cold weather hits thereby allowing a more ready spread of the virus.