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The end of retirement
The Economist ^ | Jun 25 2009 | Unknown

Posted on 06/28/2009 6:12:28 PM PDT by decimon

WHEN Otto von Bismarck introduced the first pension for workers over 70 in 1889, the life expectancy of a Prussian was 45. In 1908, when Lloyd George bullied through a payment of five shillings a week for poor men who had reached 70, Britons, especially poor ones, were lucky to survive much past 50. By 1935, when America set up its Social Security system, the official pension age was 65—three years beyond the lifespan of the typical American. State-sponsored retirement was designed to be a brief sunset to life, for a few hardy souls.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Society
KEYWORDS: elderly; retirement; seniors; socialsecurity
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1 posted on 06/28/2009 6:12:28 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
I got mine. Here's hoping you all get yours.
2 posted on 06/28/2009 6:14:24 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: decimon

If Obama and the Obamazombies push taxes up too high, I just won’t work. I’ll take an early retirement. Already have a backup plan.


3 posted on 06/28/2009 6:18:48 PM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: decimon
Retirement Obama style means death. You will definitely be retired.
4 posted on 06/28/2009 6:19:25 PM PDT by dforest (Anyone dumb enough to have voted for him deserves what they get.. No Pity!)
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To: decimon
Interesting fact in the article: the USA has over 100,000 people aged 100 or more. In my area of Pittsburgh, we have a lady who is 109 years old, a Mrs. Agnes Wetzel, widow of a WW I veteran.
5 posted on 06/28/2009 6:20:27 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: decimon
WHEN Otto von Bismarck introduced the first pension for workers over 70 in 1889, the life expectancy of a Prussian was 45. In 1908, when Lloyd George bullied through a payment of five shillings a week for poor men who had reached 70, Britons, especially poor ones, were lucky to survive much past 50. By 1935, when America set up its Social Security system, the official pension age was 65—three years beyond the lifespan of the typical American. State-sponsored retirement was designed to be a brief sunset to life, for a few hardy souls.

A large part of life expentancy is whether people survive childhood, which has little effect on retirement ages. A better age to compare is life expentancy of those who reach 18.

6 posted on 06/28/2009 6:30:08 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Chrysler and GM are what Marx meant by the means of production.)
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To: decimon

“State-sponsored retirement” systems ALWAYS banked on an early death. W/out that they go broke quickly.


7 posted on 06/28/2009 6:30:26 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
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Interesting fact in the article: the USA has over 100,000 people aged 100 or more.

Someone reaching that age used to seem near miraculous.

8 posted on 06/28/2009 6:30:39 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Ciexyz

I took mine early, before Obama could steal it!


9 posted on 06/28/2009 6:32:24 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: KarlInOhio
A large part of life expentancy is whether people survive childhood, which has little effect on retirement ages. A better age to compare is life expentancy of those who reach 18.

That's a good point but I think life expectancy has also increased by your measure.

10 posted on 06/28/2009 6:33:55 PM PDT by decimon
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I always thought I’d die young so...I retired at age 50, 16 years ago...been nice too.


11 posted on 06/28/2009 6:39:48 PM PDT by blam
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To: WellyP

AND, in the morning I am going ot ski 2+ feet of new power snow.


12 posted on 06/28/2009 6:40:14 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: decimon

When some lab finally discovers the cure for aging then the entire concept of retirement will have to go.


13 posted on 06/28/2009 6:46:58 PM PDT by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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We cannot afford to retire. We are considerably past retirement age, but our small business, like most all the others, is under vicious assault by the Socialists/Marxists now running our government. The values of all our assets, business and personal, have greatly decreased. Thanks to Barney Frank and his allies, the stock market “went South” and took our investments on which we had depended for retirement funds.

Impeach Obama. Get rid of the libs before there's nothing left to work or fight for.

14 posted on 06/28/2009 6:49:42 PM PDT by July4
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Grandpa retired at 55, Dad at 53. I’m aiming for 55 (7 more years) and if I don’t get hit by a bus between now and then, I should be able to pull it off, 0bamaconomy or not. :)

Just have the farm mortgage to pay off, then if I have to work, it’ll be for chicken feed for property taxes and utilities, oh, and actually FOR ‘chicken feed,’ LOL!


15 posted on 06/28/2009 6:58:32 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: WellyP

Where are you doing that at?


16 posted on 06/28/2009 7:03:04 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: decimon

The thought of retirement if foreign to me. Here’s to dying with my boots on.


17 posted on 06/28/2009 7:04:18 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: eclecticEel

[When some lab finally discovers the cure for aging. . .]

That could happen or technology could reach a point where the human race transforms itself from flesh and blood to electronics and plastic. In artificial form people could live indefinitely and survive in harsh environments.


18 posted on 06/28/2009 7:05:45 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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19 posted on 06/28/2009 7:20:07 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: decimon

Why worry?

With the coming Obama Health Care you won’t be living past 65, and if you do, your health benefits will be cut off by rationing.

Obama is inventing the modern day version of Soylent Green.


20 posted on 06/28/2009 7:26:17 PM PDT by oldbill
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