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Warp Drive Engine Could Suck Earth Into Black Hole
Discovery News ^ | June 11, 2009 | Eric Bland

Posted on 06/23/2009 6:17:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

"Star Trek" makes faster-than-light travel look easy, but according to new calculations by Italian physicists, a warp drive could easily create a black hole that would incinerate any passengers on a space craft and then suck Earth into a black hole. "Warp drives are so far the best case scenario to attain faster-than-light travel," said Stefano Finazzi of Italy's International School for Advanced Studies. This paper "makes it much harder to realize, if not almost impossible, warp drives." ...Other physicists agree with the Italians' calculations, up to a point. "It's a good paper; their results are sound," said Gerald Cleaver, a professor of physics at Baylor University who reviewed the work. The results make sense, at least, when creating warp drive using exotic matter in a universe where 1 plus 1 equals 2. In a universe where 1 plus 1 equals 3, a possibility with string theory instead of the semi classical physics used by the Italians, a stable warp drive is viable. Last year Cleaver and co-author Richard Obousy detailed a string theory-based warp drive that creates a bubble of space time by expanding one of the tiny, rolled-up dimensions (instead of a bubble of dark energy) predicted by string theory. The biggest sticking point to a extra dimension-based warp drive? The entire mass of Jupiter would have to be converted into pure energy to power it.

(Excerpt) Read more at dsc.discovery.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: blackhole; startrek; stringtheory; warpdrive
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To: Jeffrey_D.; Mr_Moonlight; FlingWingFlyer; SandWMan; skinkinthegrass; Hugin; JoeProBono; ...

Turns out we can reverse the effect with a Evird Praw. Dang, that was close.


21 posted on 06/23/2009 6:29:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.troopathon.org/index.php -- June 25th -- the Troopathon)
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To: SunkenCiv

It turtles all the way down you know...


22 posted on 06/23/2009 6:29:45 PM PDT by allmost
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To: SunkenCiv

"She's gone from suck to blow"

23 posted on 06/23/2009 6:31:20 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SunkenCiv
i suppose starting it a goodly distance AWAY from earth would be tooo much to ask...
24 posted on 06/23/2009 6:32:53 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: SunkenCiv
Evird Praw


25 posted on 06/23/2009 6:33:42 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight (#9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9#9 #9 #9 #9 #9)
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To: JRandomFreeper
How about a zenith pulsar plasma accelerator ?
26 posted on 06/23/2009 6:34:59 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Right on!!!

Those calculations I bet assume Newton’s G at small scale when in fact G
may be G* ~ 10^40 times larger than Newton’s G on the relevant
micro-scale! Note that 10^20 is square root of 10^40 so that a quantum
gravity effect of order (Lp*/L) scales as (G*/G)^1/2

s/o


27 posted on 06/23/2009 6:36:37 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D.
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To: SunkenCiv

Warp Drive Engine Could Suck Earth Into Black Hole

Daffy Duck (Duck Dodgers): “Whoops...had the silly thing in reverse” Batta-bing


28 posted on 06/23/2009 6:43:06 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
Can I build one in the garage?

/johnny

29 posted on 06/23/2009 6:44:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The Zenith Pulsar is kind of difficult to get..... but, it might be doable ...


30 posted on 06/23/2009 6:46:26 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m more worried about Chicago!


31 posted on 06/23/2009 6:46:52 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Warp Drive Engine Could Suck Earth Into Black Hole”

But, wouldn’t we just come out the other side... ? LOL...


32 posted on 06/23/2009 6:47:44 PM PDT by Star Traveler (I personally oppose shooting abortionists, but I do not believe in imposing my morality on others.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Ohhh darn it ... I forgot to tell you....
It only comes in left handed reverse .. but, you might be able to ( if you tweek it ) to be a right handed forward accelerator....
Ohh yeah ? BTW ?? I also forgot ? DON'T PUSH THE GREEN BUTTON !!!
33 posted on 06/23/2009 6:49:49 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Well... damn.

So what you’re saying is, I shouldn’t have bought 1,000 shares of Allied Warp Systems at $95 a share.


34 posted on 06/23/2009 6:56:56 PM PDT by john in springfield
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35 posted on 06/23/2009 7:01:45 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Can't Stop the Signal!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Note to self: quit buying particle accelerator and warp drive plans off of the internet.

Psssst. Hey bud, look, I got these drive plans here, only slightly used, at that by a major manufacturer, if I told
you the name you’d recognize them right off the bat.
Look these are good plans, government plans, but keep it
under your hat ok?
I call this the “TARP” drive and I can let you have it cheap
just write me at Obama.surplusdrives.gov


36 posted on 06/23/2009 7:11:46 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Gone to Plaid
37 posted on 06/23/2009 7:16:10 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: tet68
I call this the “TARP” drive and I can let you have it cheap

My understanding is that the TARP drive creates paper out of thin air and printing presses and can cause an uncontrolled economic implosion if activated..... I dunnno.

/johnny

38 posted on 06/23/2009 7:21:16 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Yes, but would anybody really miss it?


39 posted on 06/23/2009 7:24:05 PM PDT by pankot
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To: pankot

No, I’m afraid it is the black hole that will swallow the earth!


40 posted on 06/23/2009 7:25:33 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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