Posted on 06/09/2009 8:47:35 AM PDT by Davy Buck
My oh my, what would the critics, the Civil War publications, publishers, and bloggers do if it weren't for the bad boys of the Confederacy and those who study them and also those who wish to honor their ancestors who fought for the Confederacy?
(Excerpt) Read more at oldvirginiablog.blogspot.com ...
as i've said, given a FEW years, a FREE dixie nation would have done FINE. in fact, the CSA might well have become THE "powerhouse" of the west.
furthermore, slavery was DYING by 1860. i suspect "the peculiar institution" would have NOT been around at all by 1870. (in case you didn't know, slavery died out virtually everywhere in the hemisphere by then & W/O a bloody war.)
as i said, your inbred PREJUDICE against the southland/southerners has BLINDED you. furthermore, your position is simplistic,ridiculous & (imVho) INFEFENSIBLE.
free dixie,sw
Utter nonsense.
furthermore, slavery was DYING by 1860. i suspect "the peculiar institution" would have NOT been around at all by 1870. (in case you didn't know, slavery died out virtually everywhere in the hemisphere by then & W/O a bloody war.)
Complete nonsense.
as i said, your inbred PREJUDICE against the southland/southerners has BLINDED you. furthermore, your position is simplistic,ridiculous & (imVho) INFEFENSIBLE.
Sheer idiocy.
Where's the book?
***I can’t see their history being all that positive, given their economic, social and cultural limitations.***
You seem to forget that Texas was one of the original 7. The South would have done just fine with us leading the way in oil, agriculture, manufacturing, shipping, cattle, finance or any other type of commerce. And to say that the South was limited in cultural or educational endeavors can simply be refuted with facts.
As usual, the North must punish the South for trying to be free. The propaganda lives on. And by the way, when will the North begin Reparations for the destruction of the South’s economy, culture, way of life, infrastructure, and history during the years of Reconstruction? When will they begin Reparations for the rape, plunder, and pillage that they took part in? Will the Senate pass a resolution apologizing for burning the homes of destitute widows and children? Will they apologize for the destruction of churches and other places of worship? When will the North apologize for their cruelty and brutality? We all know the answer - NEVER! Why should the South continue to be part of a country that never has and never will have any respect for us? They make fun of our accent, our culture, our way of life. They call us ignorant redneck hicks and portray us as woefully unsophisticated (as if being sophisticated is a virtue!). This marriage was over more than 100 years ago and we tried to leave then, but were drug back and beaten to a bloody pulp. But we will escape the bully one day and this time it will be for good!
care for a "do over", as that post rather nicely "makes my case" about your PREJUDICE-induced blindness to REALITY??? further, your post likely convinces NOBODY of you position.
laughing AT you.
free dixie,sw
Based on newspaper reports, intelligence, and civilian observations, the Confederate government operated on the knowledge that Union ships were headed for Charleston. The sources reported the departures of the following ships:
Harriett Lane- three 9-inch Dahlgrens, one 30-pounder Parrott Rifle, and one 12-pounder -to be used as an armed escort ship for the troop carrying passenger steamer Baltic
Pawnee-15 gun warship-crew of 94
Pocahontas-6 gun warship-crew of 95
Powhatan-warship-many guns plus 4-12 pounders-300 sailors and launches (Klein p414)
Baltic-civilian merchant/passenger steamer-10 small boats-300 men (troops)
(Klein p358)
Illinois-civilian merchant/passenger steamer-carrying an unspecified number of troops (Klein p406)
Atlantic- civilian merchant/passenger steamer-600 troops aboard (U.S. Navy History records)
Yankee-ocean tug
Uncle Ben-ocean tug
You know that the movement of the garrison from Ft. Moultrie to Ft. Sumter broke the Buchanan-South Carolina agreement, and was considered an act of war against the State of SC.
Anderson formally threatened to fire on harbor traffic. There was no Confederate attempt to starve anyone. The Union fleet's appearance, firing on civilian shipping, seizure of ships, and blockade consituted acts of war against the state's sovergn coastline.
Lincoln made no declaration of war before he sent the ships south.
So, would you place more weight on Madison or Lincoln?
What was the wording of the ultimatum?
When you talk about freedom, you seem to be forgetting the sizeable percentage of the CSA's population that had as much freedom as livestock.
And by the way, when will the North begin Reparations for the destruction of the South’s economy, culture, way of life, infrastructure, and history during the years of Reconstruction?
Probably about the same time that the descendants of Southern slaveowners are require to pay reparations to the descendants of slaves. Do you really want to have this discussion?
Why should the South continue to be part of a country that never has and never will have any respect for us?
Oh, poor martyred you.
They make fun of our accent, our culture, our way of life. They call us ignorant redneck hicks and portray us as woefully unsophisticated (as if being sophisticated is a virtue!).
Sophistification isn't a virtue? Anyway, I've lived most of my life north of the Mason-Dixon line. Most people here spend little or no time talking about what people do in Atlanta or Birmingham. This persecution complex is silly. I mean, if the South was so trodden-upon, why have 3 out of the 5 Presidents in my lifetime been from the South?
You live north of the Mason-Dixon line? Then I really don’t give a care what you think, because your worldview is radically different from mine. I’ll give up being “martyred” when you give up being “holier than thou.”
“The day that you disappear no one will notice, no one will comment, and no one will care.”
free dixie,sw
We just passed the one year anniversary of the first time you said you ordered the book.
I love you.
But the Northern savior said IT wasn't about slavery...
- Abe "The Illinois Butcher™" Lincoln
There, fixed it up a bit.
No, I've lived south of the Mason-Dixon line for about 7 years now.
Then I really don’t give a care what you think, because your worldview is radically different from mine.
Imagine the sleep I'm going to lose over that.
I'm sure there were a handful of unscrupulous Northerners who were happy to make money off of owning human flesh.
But, whatever the faults of the antebellum North, its economy wasn't based on slavery.
I wasa responding to the other poster's claim that that South was fighting for freedom, which is a laughable claim given that about a third of the CSA's population was in bondage. And let's not forget what the CSA's government did to Unionists in east Tennessee and the hill country of North Carolina for opposing the slave empire.
What freedom, exactly, was the South fighting for?
You and a few other here (not even mentioning the pyscotic spamer who hits the caps locks randomly) seem to be decending to posting insults based entirely on geography. But do you have any historical/philosophical arguments to back up those insults?
Personally, it does not make any difference to me what your g-g-g grand daddy did any more than you really give a damn what mine did. That's the kind of stupid crap that has made the Balkans the arm pit of Europe for a thousand years.
It's about history, not us and certantly not what some distant ancestor did or didn't do.
what was different about northern & southern slavers was the SELF-righteous HYPOCRASY of the northern slavers.
also, pardon me, but you dodged the question that i asked in #791. (hint: MANY of the northern elite's fortunes were based upon buying, selling, shipping,renting, leasing & EXPORTING slaves to other countries AFTER slavery was outlawed in the USA.= it was a classic case of, "Do as i say, not as i DO".)
DAMNyankee ELITISTS have always been sanctimonious HYPOCRITES. it is their NATURE.
free dixie,sw
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