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Targeting Lost Causers
Old Virginia Blog ^ | 06/09/2009 | Richard Williams

Posted on 06/09/2009 8:47:35 AM PDT by Davy Buck

My oh my, what would the critics, the Civil War publications, publishers, and bloggers do if it weren't for the bad boys of the Confederacy and those who study them and also those who wish to honor their ancestors who fought for the Confederacy?

(Excerpt) Read more at oldvirginiablog.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Education; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: academia; confederacy; damnyankees; dixie; dunmoresproclamation; history; lincolnwasgreatest; neoconfeds; notthisagain; southern; southwasright
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To: PeaRidge
You did not bother to read the entire article. Criticize what you will, but be sure you are right before you start.

I'm comfortable that I'm right. Either that or the Official Record and every book I've read on Sumter is wrong as well.

1,041 posted on 06/30/2009 5:21:15 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: PeaRidge
And, Non, while you are thinking things over, who do you think paid for this gigantic invasion of Ft. Sumter and Ft. Pickens at Pensacola?

Surely not you?

1,042 posted on 06/30/2009 5:22:15 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: PeaRidge
Yes, they don’t quite understand the tariff issue, do they?

Ooooh! Ooooh! Please explain it to us! This should be good.

1,043 posted on 06/30/2009 5:25:20 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
"don't you get tired of being RIDICULED as by a FOOL & a BIGOT, who cannot seem to write a paragraph without saying something VULGAR/CRUDE/STUPID???"

There, fixed it...
1,044 posted on 06/30/2009 6:16:32 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: stand watie

Oh, and no - I’m more amused at your inanities. Your idea of ridicule is akin to attacking your opponents by throwing yourself in front of their truck.

It doesn’t work out so well for you but it’s funny as heck to the rest of us!


1,045 posted on 06/30/2009 6:23:10 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: lentulusgracchus
That sounds like the beginnings of legend-building and the Memory Hole right there.

Lincoln's son destroyed much of Lincoln's unfavourable papers according to Herndon IIRC.

1,046 posted on 06/30/2009 8:00:55 PM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: 4CJ
Lincoln's son destroyed much of Lincoln's unfavourable papers according to Herndon

What sort of papers would those be? Wheeler-dealer letters about appointments? About screwing the States and courts? About the origins of the War, or his colonization-movement enthusiasms? The illicit cotton trade through the Civil War lines? Voter suppression in New York?

Lincoln post-mortem is such a marble man, it's hard to guess in what area those papers would have been.

1,047 posted on 07/01/2009 1:11:53 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
It's clear with every post why you and all neo Yankees hate and spend your free time bashing "lost causers". I get it now. I now understand. It's fear. You neoYankees see the writing on the wall. The country is turning marxist/statist. Without the south the north is finished. You know it's true. Your lost cause is trying to tamp down any separatist notion that pops up. No one gets out alive, we all sink togethet is your lost cause. Screw all Yankees.

Oh, I'm a good old Rebel,
Now that's just what I am;
For this "fair land of Freedom"
I do not care a damn.
I'm glad I fit against it-
I only wish we'd won.
And I don't want no pardon
For anything I've done.

I hates the Constitution,
This great Republic too;
I hates the Freedmen's Buro,
In uniforms of blue.
I hates the nasty eagle,
With all his brag and fuss;
But the lyin', thievin' Yankees
I hates' em wuss and wuss.

We got three hundred thousand
Befo' they conquered us.
They died of Southern fever
And Southern steel and shot;
And I wish it was three million
Instead of what we got.

I can't take up my musket
And fight' em now no mo',
But I ain't a-goin'to love' em,
Now that is sartin sho';
And I don't want no pardon
For what I was and am;
And I won't be reconstructed,
And I do not give a damn.

1,048 posted on 07/01/2009 3:22:24 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: lentulusgracchus
What sort of papers would those be? Wheeler-dealer letters about appointments? About screwing the States and courts? About the origins of the War, or his colonization-movement enthusiasms? The illicit cotton trade through the Civil War lines? Voter suppression in New York?

None of the above?

1,049 posted on 07/01/2009 4:02:13 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

You said: “I’m comfortable that I’m right...”

Right about what?


1,050 posted on 07/01/2009 5:29:34 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: rustbucket; 4CJ; stand watie; lentulusgracchus; mojitojoe; central_va; Non-Sequitur
In a recent post, I said to non-sequitur: And, Non, while you are thinking things over, who do you think paid for this gigantic invasion of Ft. Sumter and Ft. Pickens at Pensacola?

Strangely, his answer was: Surely not you?

That was a really lame attempt on his part.

As we have all seen in dealing with poster non-sequitur, he will post endlessly on the most irrelevant points. On matters of importance to him, he will use red-herrings, straw man arguments, non-sequiturs, outright misrepresentations, and the occasional canard.

As stand watie has pointed out, he engages in bashing just for the fun of it. He also likes to amuse and seek the approval of his notable pals here, Ditto and X.

But notice this....he is running out of steam. Your posts have exposed his arguments as full of bull, just as they have been for years.

1,051 posted on 07/01/2009 5:44:25 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: PeaRidge

Yep, you’ve really got him on the ropes...*snicker*


1,052 posted on 07/01/2009 5:48:25 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: PeaRidge

The Neo Yankee State-ist fears any southern separatism movement. He tries to use the past as a canard against the present day situation. They are evil, spouting their Constitutional defenses, even while the left defecates on the once venerable document. Their goal is to keep it licked clean.


1,053 posted on 07/01/2009 5:49:49 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: PeaRidge; Non-Sequitur; stand watie

Wouldn’t the name alone have given you a clue?

In Non-Sequitur’s defence, he knows more about the Civil war and can document it on these threads faster than anyone I have ever seen and I commend him for not allowing such juvenile tripe as normally get posted on these threads to go unanswered.

stand on the other hand makes stuff up as he goes along and has for years, just ask him to retell the tale of how the confederate navy captured a u boat during WWII and displayed it in Galveston Texas.

The sole documentation of this event is recorded in a book no one but stand has ever seen or heard of, as for the U boat itself one would think that such a prize would be a center piece of the city of Galveston and yet there are no records at all of it ever being displayed there.


1,054 posted on 07/01/2009 6:00:38 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: PeaRidge
Right about what?

Everything I post. But specifically the size of the resupply effort for Sumter and Pickens being considerably smaller than you claim. I can't vouch for the accuacy of the quote from Klein since I've not read the book. But I've read other books on the subject and the documents on Sumter in the OR and the idea that it was a dozen or so ships and 3,000 or so troops is not supported by anything I've seen in any source.

1,055 posted on 07/01/2009 6:05:53 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: PeaRidge
That was a really lame attempt on his part.

It was a sarcastic answer to an idiotic question. What do you mean 'who paid for it'? The federal government, of course. The budgets for the Navy Department and the War Department covered it. You want to imply that Lincoln violated the Constitution by appropriating money for the resupply effort instead of Congress. Such an implication is too ludicrous to deserve a reasonable answer.

As we have all seen in dealing with poster non-sequitur, he will post endlessly on the most irrelevant points. On matters of importance to him, he will use red-herrings, straw man arguments, non-sequiturs, outright misrepresentations, and the occasional canard.

Irrelevance, exaggerations, and canards are your area, not mine.

As stand watie has pointed out, he engages in bashing just for the fun of it. He also likes to amuse and seek the approval of his notable pals here, Ditto and X.

ROTFLMAO!!!!! When you and you Southron buddies exhaust your supply of fairy tales, you call your opponents liberals, homosexuals, Nazis, Commies, speculate on gender, all in an attempt to insult. Attempts at bashing comes from below the Mason-Dixon Line, not above it.

But notice this....he is running out of steam. Your posts have exposed his arguments as full of bull, just as they have been for years.

Your imagination knows no bounds, and your self-delusions are endless.

1,056 posted on 07/01/2009 6:12:41 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: central_va
The Neo Yankee State-ist fears any southern separatism movement.

We Yankee's are amused at your claims of any Southern sepratist movement. You are the lunatic fringe of rebeldom, and good for laughs. Nothing else.

They are evil, spouting their Constitutional defenses, even while the left defecates on the once venerable document.

What are you complaining about. "I hate the Constitution...I hate the Declaration of Independence, too." If it's being dumped on I'd expect you to be the first in line to squat.

1,057 posted on 07/01/2009 6:15:35 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
We Yankee's are amused at your claims of any Southern sepratist movement. You are the lunatic fringe of rebeldom, and good for laughs. Nothing else.

I would not respond to somebody that I thought was a "lunatic fringe" type. Since you constantly respond there is more to it than that. You fear us. Prove me wrong AND DON'T RESPOND.

                --signed lunatic fringe rebel

1,058 posted on 07/01/2009 6:20:21 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: central_va

By the way....

If secession is not rebellion how can you be a rebel?


1,059 posted on 07/01/2009 6:31:42 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: usmcobra
If secession is not rebellion how can you be a rebel?

Good, I agree. You can learn. Surprising for a jarhead....

1,060 posted on 07/01/2009 6:37:07 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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