Posted on 05/25/2009 3:39:41 PM PDT by JoeProBono
A woman and her 13-year-old son who were on the run from court-ordered cancer treatment for the boy have returned to Minnesota, the Brown County Sheriff's Office said Monday.
"Daniel Hauser and his mother have been returned to Minnesota," according to a news release. It did not reveal any additional details, but said there would be a news conference Monday evening.
The FBI's affidavit in support of an arrest warrant for Colleen alleges she fled the state Tuesday to avoid being prosecuted on two state counts of depriving another of custodial or parental rights in Brown County.
The FBI said the pair flew from Minnesota to Los Angeles last Tuesday on Sun Country Airlines. Investigators suspected they might have headed to one of a number of alternative cancer clinics in northern Mexico.
Name a time the AP told all the truth. And left nothing out. Or didn’t distort according to their leftist view.
You can read the transcript [pdf] of the judge questioning Daniel Hauser. The kid's in way over his head. He has no idea how sick he is, no idea what the tenets of his "religion" are, and being illiterate is incapable of learning any of these things on his own. He's been taught that he's a "medicine man," and an "elder," even though he doesn't know what that word means.
HIS success rate with Chemo could just as easily be in the 5-10% death rate and not in the 90-95% success rate. NO ONE KNOWS what HIS odds are.
I don't think that word (odds) means what you think it means. If he's one of the 10% that die, that doesn't change the odds of successfully treating non-Hodgkins lymphoma, any more than flipping a coin and getting heads means the odds of getting heads was 100%.
>>Because some other poster said “its not that bad”.
I would never EVER say it is not that bad. It is pretty awful and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. But, as I said people survive and thrive and it isn’t as bad as it was even a few years ago.
>>Name a time the AP told all the truth. And left nothing out. Or didn’t distort according to their leftist view.
Again, a vague “well it is AP” isn’t much of an indictment. If you challenge a fact of the story, what fact(s) do you challenge?
I don’t think this is nec the case. Many people in medicine really do care about healing patients. It’s easy to be cynical, but it’s simply not true that everyone is just out for power or money. Is that all you care about? I bet not, so, why can’t anyone else also have good motives, even if you don’t think they come to the right conclusion?
Well if we knew what the truth was, we’d have an answer to that wouldn’t we.
I think comparing an apparently strong 1 year old with an 82 year old is not valid.
But at least an 80 year old can assess his options.
I found this...
Chemotherapy will likely save Daniel’s life and, as a pediatrician, I would not hesitate to recommend it.
But I would also like to turn down the volume on the talk-radio chatter and outraged editorials. That’s because nobody seems to be talking about what it takes to beat Hodgkin’s (or any other cancer). And what it takes is a gruelling regimen that can, indeed, give even a dying person pause.
In fact, the Hausers didn’t refuse chemotherapy outright. They defied doctors and a judge’s ruling after Daniel experienced some of its violent effects following one round.
If you don’t understand why, listen to my friend, Arun Ponnusamy, 36, who beat acute lymphocytic leukemia. “Surviving cancer is one thing,” he says. “Surviving chemotherapy is another thing entirely.”
Ponnusamy is now an educational consultant in Los Angeles. He was diagnosed with cancer in his early 20s. His disease, like the Hodgkin’s that afflicts Hauser, has a high survival rate if treated right away and Ponnusamy early on underwent a rigorous regimen of chemotherapy.
Fighting cancer pits a person against potent drugs that, because of their horrid side-effects, push the doctors’ credo “First, do no harm,” to its limits. Chemotherapy drugs are not smart enough to distinguish tumour cells from healthy cells.
Ponnusamy underwent two years of chemotherapy. “I literally felt possessed,” he says, recalling hours of nausea and vomiting after infusions. When that was over, there would be hours more of dry heaving over the toilet. “I remember asking myself more than once: `How can this be doing me any good?’”
He dropped from 145 pounds to 110, unable to tolerate foods. He stopped fitting into his clothes and, like most cancer patients, began losing his hair. “I didn’t recognize myself,” he says.
On several occasions, Ponnusamy had to be readmitted to the hospital after his treatments because he developed high fevers and shaking chills.
Most anti-cancer drugs suppress the bone marrow, where your body rapidly produces cells of the immune system.
Those of us who have taken care of cancer patients know that within days of receiving a round of chemotherapy, a patient’s immunity grinds to a halt. Suddenly, even common infections become life-threatening. As well, patients can lose red blood cells and platelets, leading to anemia and a difficulty in stopping even the smallest cuts from bleeding.
Some patients experience severe erosions of, and infections on, the lining of their mucous membranes, leaving their lips, gums and the inside of their mouth, throat and nose and even their stomach inflamed, bleeding and burning with pain.
More, at link below...
http://www.thestar.com/living/article/639625
Moron!
The way to stay healthy is to eat only real food, and stay away from the disease vendors. It worked for my father, it works for me, and it works for my kids and grandkids.
It works for all that really do it.
On the other hand, you can drink diet soda, and eat fat-free plastic food and do the population control freaks a big favor. (I recommend it for you especially)
>>Well if we knew what the truth was, we’d have an answer to that wouldn’t we<<
OK, so what is your point? The debate on this subject have surrounded whether the child should be able to decide, when a parent’s decision to withhold treatment becomes child abuse, how bad chemo is and, for one nut case, whether seeing a doctor regularly will kill you.
Which of these points does the fact this an AP report affect?
Why no. I'm sure if you give me a minute I could do much better.
What did you have in mind?
Child neglect and abuse have ALWAYS been illegal and the state is acting on long standing common law and written statutes in the matter. Had the boy been considered competent...
Ahhh!!! The PD reported them. I understand the boy is 13 and therefor considered unable to make his own decision concerning treatment. But a 13 year old girl can get an abortion without her parents consent or knowledge in alot of states, right? Nce world we live in!
I eat plenty healthy. I see my doctor regularly as well.
The fact you think doctors are evil (or just bad) explains much about you.
Like I said, you are certifiable. I am sure if one of your kids or grandkids got cancer you would just pray over them and watch them die.
Remember you are “debating” with a nut who thinks doctors make you sick and that all illness can be avoided by eating well.
I feel the same way.
Maybe under the part about Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness?
Actually, I agree, but they do not follow the mainstream. Dr. Whitacker, Dr. Douglas, etc. and hundreds more. They have saved hundreds of thousands through their practices, and their educational publications, but they can't seem to get rich teaching people to eat right. Mainstream medicine is a guarantee of a shortened life, because it isn't a curing process, its a symptom treating ruse; keep them alive but dependent as long as possible.
I found this article where the author is claiming the Father didn't agree, but it's not clear that the father is dissagreeing with the treatment or the mother leaving. I assumed the father was against the natural treatment because of his public pleas for the mother to bring the child back.
It doesn't invalidate the current child abuse and neglect laws.
I also don't think the judge found the boy incompetent due solely to age, I think his learning disabilities and illiteracy may have had more to do with it.
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