Posted on 04/22/2009 1:11:09 PM PDT by Liberty1970
Over the years I’ve read copiously on the subject of origins. I’ve noticed the media pronouncements on the subject of new fossils and evolutionary theory form a startlingly repetitive pattern. To save the over-worked and increasingly bankrupt news media I’ve undertaken to serve them with a generic news story that can be copy-and-pasted with few modifications and reused as frequently as desired.
New Fossil Discovery Is Transition Form, Provides Proof of Evolution!
University of ________
Scientists say they’ve found a “missing link” in the early evolution of ______ - the skeleton of a ______ that was evolving away from ______ to _______. [Translation: They found something new, therefore it must have evolved by time + chance from something else.]
These _______ features were a new adaptation as the species evolved into ______. [Translation: If we imagine hard enough, anything is possible.]
Experts called it "a fantastic discovery" that fills a crucial gap in the fossil record. [Translation: Give us more $$$ for our Very Important Work.]
The ___ million-year-old creature was not a direct ancestor of today's ______. It's from a different branch. But it does show what an early direct ancestor looked like, said researcher [Translation: The headline is a big fat lie and once again we can’t actually find an actual ancestor of modern life that shows innovative evolutionary change, but please don’t notice that. We think this critter is _close enough_ for propaganda purposes.]
Dr. _______, a biology professor at ______ State University who wasn't involved in the work, welcomed the find. [Translation: Can I use this to get more grant $$$ too?]
"This is a fantastic discovery that fills a critical evolutionary gap (from) when ______ traded _____ for ______ and moved from ______ to ______," she wrote in an e-mail. [Translation: This Really Important Discovery demands more research funding. Hint, hint.]
Not all experts agreed. Professor _____ noted that an older fossil of the same type had been discovered in ______. [Translation: We pick and choose what evidence we like to focus on, and hope for the best.]
But _____, who didn't participate in the paper, called the discovery exciting because it provides direct evidence for what early ________ in the _____-to-______ transition looked like. [Translation: I won’t rock the boat. By the way, give us more $$$.]
Overall, 100% of officially-sanctioned scientists said, the discovery was a tremendous, awesome, spectacular find that overwhelmingly proves that only idiotic, anti-scientific dolts would dare disbelieve in evolutionism, and the public needs to spend lots more tax dollars supporting them and their Very Important Work. [Never mind the complete lack of patents or other real technological application for their work and personal agendas.]
You've run this argument before. An MS is a pretty low-level degree. Especially when compared to the millions of PhDs who practice science.
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[] that fossil disproving another talking point
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[] a picture from the Hubble
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[] Phillip Johnson
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there are too many unanswered questions. What about
[] the bacterial flagellum?
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My point is that you are probably not qualified to make that call. Your posts make it clear you do not know anything about science. That is not a knock -- it is just a fact. I asked the questions I did to make it clear that there are a lot of areas of knowledge and that a lay opinion is pretty meaningless.
The fact you conflate science and atheism in complete contradiction of facts emphasizes that.
And lots of adults smirk (just getting that out of the way from a different post).
I do hope you have a great day and that God shows you His wonders in many ways today.
I don’t have time to post right now—I have to take my kid to the evo-orthodontist.
and i’m sure he/she refers to him as an evil-orthodontist
>>You are exactly right, Metmom. In fact, the higher the qualifications, the greater the vilification from the Evo/AIDS alarmist camp.
You are right — an MS is really beneath us :) Maybe you can get an orthodontist to write something up...?
Much irony on this thread.
>>Much irony on this thread.
Also some lead, copper and traces of aluminum — the deeper the thread, the more trace minerals we find.
I was actually referring to the whole cast iron kitchenware thing.
Much irony indeed.
>>I was actually referring to the whole cast iron kitchenware thing.
Much irony indeed.<<
Iron cookware is the best — but it is difficult to transport, since it is so heavy.
It is actually amazing to me that with all the cool allow-based and nonstick pans that good ol’ cast-iron still creates the best results!
Complete and utter nonsense. Even with a virus, scientist can witness first hand evolutionary changes where the virus becomes more complex and adapts to survive and thrive in varying environments or conditions.
This is what kills me about creationist. They expect that for a theory to accurate or "provable", it needs to be replicated or produced in a lab someplace. Ridiculous. Science can't replicate gravity, but that doesn't diminish the theory that explains gravity and it's effects in a physical world.
The fact that in 2009, in the most scientifically advanced society on the planet, we have a large group of people that want to teach their religious beliefs in a scientific classroom is frightening with respect to America's ability to continue to be a leader, rather than a follower in scientific innovation.
What's even more disturbing is that the GOP seems handcuffed and beholden to such idiocy and that some people label such fantasy as "conservative ideology". When did the philosophy of Adam Smith, Edmund Burke and Russel Kirk get hijacked by such lunacy?
You are mixing up several different things. Yes, there is evidence of adaptation due to a variety of mechanisms, including an occasional random mutation. However there are no known examples of them becoming 'more complex' in a way that would tend to support the notion of molecules-to-man evolution. All the examples we have, and there is quite a lot of data in the field of evolutionary biology now, is of neutral shifts or degenerative mutatations that by some fluke provide an adaptive advantage (such as loss of flight on an island-dwelling beetle, such that it doesn't get blown out to sea.)
If you have any mutation examples that you think would support evolutionism, please do share them. I think the total one-sidedness of the evidence of evolutioniary biology (empirical science, not the historical guessing games of the religious ideologues) speaks for itself. Your grasp of conservatism is deficient if you think it is remotely compatible with evolutionism (which undergirds all the anti-conservative ideologies). Burke and Smith, for example, were certainly creationists and their writing is founded on a creationist worldview.
Are we to be impressed by these questions of data logic, hypothetical particles and the fact that quanta don't violate time.
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