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Mommy found it to blame everyone for not helping her daughter. This is/was a tragedy. She is devastated by parents who allow their children do and say anything that they want. Was she speaking of herself. Who is the most responsible in the situation? Mom? Dad? The school? the police?. Both of my boys have iphones [with text messaging]. My wife and I read their text messages. And we will strip them of their priviledges at any time. My advise to parents of your kids [mine are 14 and 15] is do not give them text messaging until they are 16. They need a phone to call you with. But at the end of the day I cannot expect a school to do what I have failed to do. We tell parents things that we discover and the common response is ... "I don't want to know!"

Well you walk in the room and find your child swinging from the light fixture you will wish you did know. Quit trying to be your kids friend and be their parent. That need it, and quite honestly, they want that!

1 posted on 03/23/2009 12:19:58 PM PDT by ignorancerunsrampant
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Maybe the girl was too sheltered. I can’t understand how any kid could feel so ashamed and embarrassed that they would commit suicide over it. Maybe this was the first time the kid ever was embarrassed about anything?

granted it was a pretty dumb thing she did. But not so dumb that she should end her life over it.


2 posted on 03/23/2009 12:23:23 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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Another law.

Yeah, that'll help.

3 posted on 03/23/2009 12:23:31 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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And we will strip them of their priviledges at any time.

But at the end of the day I cannot expect a school to do what I have failed to do.

Quit trying to be your kids friend and be their parent

Wise words that will save your eternal soul and hopefully theirs as well.

4 posted on 03/23/2009 12:24:04 PM PDT by frogjerk (NO TAXATION FOR REAMORTIZATION!)
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Our son is 12 and will not have a cell until he is at least 16. I know where he is at all times and he doesn’t need a phone.


5 posted on 03/23/2009 12:24:09 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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I don’t want to come across as heartless, but something about this story stinks.

Remember the 13 yr old girl who committed suicide after a neighborhood women created a false account and led her on? Well, it wasn’t her first attempt.

People who commit suicide are usually deeply troubled souls so let’s not get carried away and, for crying out loud, no new laws.


6 posted on 03/23/2009 12:24:27 PM PDT by Professor_Leonide (I said to the young man who showed me a photo, "Who can ever be sure what is behind a mask?")
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I hear how everyone just HAS to have a cellphone to get by these days (including kids, to stay in touch with parents).

How did this nation survive from 1890-1990 before cellphone use became so widespread?


7 posted on 03/23/2009 12:25:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("I certainly hope he (Bush) doesnÂ’t succeed" - Democratic strategist James Carville 9-11-2001)
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This is, indeed, a tragedy, but why is she blaming the boy who passed around the picture HER DAUGHTER SENT in the first place? The responsible party is the daughter. There are countless teenage girls posting pornography of themselves on the internet—video taping themselves, taking pictures of themselves—it’s disgusting. And, while parents have an oversight responsibility, how about raising daughters who have enough respect for themselves to not be technology ‘ho’s’?

It doesn’t say how old the girl is, but my nearly 16 year old daughter wouldn’t dream of doing such a thing. She’s plugged into her school in extra-curricular activities and active in her church youth group. I taught high school, and I know this stuff goes on—regularly. (Primarily amongst the cheerleaders and dance team girls.) It’s a sorry reflection on the parents, and I’m sad to say that this tragedy is, too. But, if the girl hadn’t taken a nude picture of herself and then sent it to her boyfriend, none of this would have happened.


8 posted on 03/23/2009 12:26:29 PM PDT by erkyl (The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in a period of moral crisis, stay neutral)
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For the most part, suicide is an irrational act. To try and formulate a rational reasons for someone’s act is fruitless.


9 posted on 03/23/2009 12:26:54 PM PDT by PurpleMan
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"They want to close their eyes and put fingers in their ears, saying it's a home issue."

Allow me to say that if the girl was sending out naked pictures of herself, it sounds like a home issue.

11 posted on 03/23/2009 12:29:10 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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Tougher laws begin at home. We were band parents and monitoried band camp and band trips and parented the kids whose real parents were too lazy. I monitored the phone calls and web sites and friends my kids hung with. Once I even read a diary.

They didn’t like it either.

Too freaking bad. I’m the MOM and some things are just because “I SAID SO.” Our house was not a democracy.

Today I have 2 grown successful, healthy, happy Conservative Christians leading productive lives...and 2 more in the wings.


12 posted on 03/23/2009 12:29:22 PM PDT by mom4melody
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We need less laws, not more laws. We need political leaders who promise to encourage the lawmaking bodies to review and remove a law a day! Let’s clean house!

As for who is responsible... In the end, we’re all responsible for our own actions. It’s a tough pill to swallow for some. Trust in God! That’s the only other way I know.


14 posted on 03/23/2009 12:29:46 PM PDT by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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No law would have saved the kid, but being a good parent would have.


16 posted on 03/23/2009 12:30:23 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Want to make a conservative angry? Lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry? Tell him the truth)
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A ban a cell phones is needed NOW!!!!! How many more kids need to die because of this horrid device.
/sarc
17 posted on 03/23/2009 12:30:40 PM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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Ummm... Where’s daddy?


18 posted on 03/23/2009 12:32:12 PM PDT by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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The Logan's daughter hung herself after she sent a naked photo of herself to her boyfriend.

"I'm just devastated by these parents that allow their children to do and say anything they want."

Physician heal thyself. Make new laws because I'll never..., I can't..., I won't..., I'm devastated... maybe if YOU taught her not to send naked pictures of herself over the internet, she'd be around.

Sorry for your loss, but I won't share in your blame.

22 posted on 03/23/2009 12:34:20 PM PDT by infidel29 (BARACkarl OBAmarx)
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Completely symptomatic of the Modern America mindset.

A real tragedy, engendered by modern technology, current social mores and the apocalyptic nature of life as experienced by a teenager.

Answer, more laws.

Well, we do have bicycle helmets required for kids.....


24 posted on 03/23/2009 12:37:47 PM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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My son is 7. I will use a football analogy. My job as a father is like an offensive lineman's job. Make sure he doesn't get hit in the pocket (adolescence)and clear as big of a hole as I can so he can blow through the line of scrimmage untouched (make sure he does nothing stupid, instill good conservative values, teach him liberals are wrong on every issue- while excelling at school and a sport-goes to a top prep school and gets into a good college). Once he gets beyond the line of scrimmage it's up to him to get the most yards as possible.

Of course I will always be there to throw as many many downfield blocks as I can, but my old legs may not carry me that far.

Despite my best intentions, he may not choose to follow my lead block, but I will make it damn clear in the huddle that the reason he got pummelled is because he did not follow my lead.

36 posted on 03/23/2009 12:49:01 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Sanford/Palin in 2012)
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My grandchildren’s cousin sent a picture of her breasts to a boy!!! The boy is the son of a principal and after he had shown everyone of the boys on the basketball team, including my grandson his father found it. Yikes, that girl is stupid.

I told both of my grandchildren that if they get any messages like that they are to delete them ASAP and there is no question about sending them, I will tar their rear ends and take their phones away and then they will have to deal with whatever their parents do to them and their parents are way tougher than I am.


39 posted on 03/23/2009 12:50:01 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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We finally broke down and got my daughter a cell phone when she turned 14. Using her business case for why she needed a phone, I got her one that can place and receive calls. That’s it. No camera, no picture mail, no nothing. (I added text later).

What the industry needs is parental controls on cell phones like we have on computers today. These would have the ability to turn functionality on and off, like the camera which seems to get kids in trouble the most.


53 posted on 03/23/2009 1:09:21 PM PDT by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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How unfortunate!

Wish you had posted the original report. Did i miss it?


54 posted on 03/23/2009 1:11:18 PM PDT by celebration
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