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What If Stock Market Plunge Is NOT About Banks, GM or Chrysler? What If It Is All About Us, and US?
My Twisted Mind | MB26

Posted on 03/05/2009 7:20:14 PM PST by MindBender26

I would ask my fellow FReepers' indulgence with this naked vanity post.

It's time we all realized something. Wall Street's plunge is not about GM, Chrysler, Citadel or any other individual company.

It is not about any group of companies or any sector of the market.

This is about Obama. It is the investor's realization that Obama does not have even most elemental set of skills to manage the economy. None of those around him have the skills, experience or wisdom either.

Stop and think; if his advisors couldn't get their own taxes right.... or weren't smart enough to hide their own tax cheating, how could they ever begin to manage a national economic system?

Worst of all, behind closed doors, are investors beginning to ask, what if Obama wants to destroy America? What if Obama and those who have supported him for 30 years intend to destroy America?

In 45 days Obama has wreaked more havoc on America than a dozen 9/11s. To kill this country, they don't need Al Quida, the Taliban, one bomb or even one AK-47. All they need is one man.

Remember the movie "Rollover?"

What if this all isn't a natural economic function...

What if it is all on purpose?

The stock market thrives on hope, real hope, and crashes on the lack of it. This began last fall when leading investors realized Obama might actually become President.

How much hope can there be when the one at the top is praying... or preying... that we lose.

Of course, there is no chance that this could be Obama's plan.... is there?

Is there?


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: market; obama; rollover; stockmarket
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To: MindBender26
You would have to be Helen Keller to not realize that Obama has been groomed almost since birth to act as the Trojan Horse of our destruction. I'm sure others were groomed by our enemies as well. Obama was just the one that actually got to the position where he could actually apply the coup de grace. Read a little of his life story. This guy is the REAL Manchurian Candidate.

The question is, do we let him and the people he represents carry out that destruction without so much as a whimper?

21 posted on 03/05/2009 7:37:58 PM PST by MGMSwordsman
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To: MindBender26

I think we’re all thinking that. :)

I take comfort in God’s sovereignty. Of course I have a couple of weapons, an education, and am willing to do what I have to do to survive...even if that means leaving America.

I am not going to be someone’s slave. But I also am comforted in knowing the saints of the past faced much worse than I have...and no matter what happens Hussein is not in control.

“they can kill your body but not your soul...”


22 posted on 03/05/2009 7:38:17 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: MindBender26

I think it is his plan.


23 posted on 03/05/2009 7:40:25 PM PST by GeronL (Will bankrupting America lead to socialism?)
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To: MindBender26

Your posts are not unlike the old E.F. Hutton commercials IMO....you post I listen !

We have same opinion as to reason market is falling. I refuse to invest a dime with a socialist democrat administration and congress conducting seditious acts every minute of the day.

Thanks MB26 !


24 posted on 03/05/2009 7:40:43 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: MindBender26
iMO it is both about Us and US.

Us: We as a people have been, by and large, seduced by cheap imports, early/generous retirements, high living with high leverage on our homes, our cars and our Credit Cards. And why not - We are every minute of every day told this is ‘Normal’. Lifestyles of the Rich and famous, Glorification of ridiculous levels of consumption, and on and on. This has gotten to the point that the ‘Takers’ of Society, the ‘Entitled’ outnumber the ‘Producers’ and ‘Savers’ and they have put their man in power under the false assumption that he and his cohorts will extend the entitlement on forever. Of course, they are wrong and they are about to be taught a very tough lesson, IMO.

US: In many ways the conduct of our Monetary and Fiscal Policies mirrors the encroaching Morays of Society at large and our Leaders have adopted the Borrow Now/Consume Now - Pay Later mentality. They have also done their best to destroy personal initiative and have used the Tax Code very skillfully as a tool of Social Engineering, rewarding certain desired activities, punishing others and bestowing irrational benefits on those well-connected enough to employ Lobbyists or make contributions/finance vacations, etc.

Well, as they say, the Party is over and the Bill is coming due. Many will find that an Economic Contraction can proceed much faster than a Deficit Fueled/Debt supported expansion and that is where I think we are at the moment.

Could write volumes about this. In fact, I've been saying this would happen for several years now and thought I must be crazy or the rest of the World was because it kept going far longer than I could have imagined.

So, for now, the Party is over and millions of Americans are going to join the ranks of the responsible. They will have no other choice - That is unless Obama buys a little more Party Time by sucking the productive to keep the Music going - But that will only delay the reckoning and make it all that much worse.

Sorry for the length and rant.

25 posted on 03/05/2009 7:41:12 PM PST by TCats
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To: MindBender26
Courage...

Dan "the Man" Rather's best ever quote.

26 posted on 03/05/2009 7:41:20 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Sioux-san

The Shack?


27 posted on 03/05/2009 7:42:17 PM PST by GeronL (Will bankrupting America lead to socialism?)
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To: MindBender26

I’m not a big fan of vanities. This one I like


28 posted on 03/05/2009 7:42:41 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget (July 4, 2009 see you there))
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To: MindBender26

Obama NEEDS the economy to be in the tank in order get his socialist agenda passed. The LAST thing he can afford is for the economy to start any sort of rebound before Congress can do its thing.

Notice how some stories have been totally spiked: retail sales were actually UP in January.

I’ve seen some stories that are now trying to say that this “recession” began in December of 2007. Nonsense. A “recession” is actually defined as two successive quarters of real GDP retraction. As of the 4th quarter of 2008 this hasn’t happened even yet.

It may be happening now. But that’s for another discussion.


29 posted on 03/05/2009 7:42:47 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: MindBender26

There have been many here, including me saying if he won the election the markets would behave the way they are now.

But I hate to be right in this case.


30 posted on 03/05/2009 7:42:58 PM PST by stockpirate (A people unwilling to use violent force to defend liberty deserves the tyrant that rules them SP)
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To: MGMSwordsman
Helen Keller would have seen him for what he is. She was a socialist.
31 posted on 03/05/2009 7:43:22 PM PST by stayathomemom (Cat herder and empty nester)
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To: MindBender26

It doesn’t matter who is in the WH, we are headed into a world wide depression that no one can stop and it has nothing to do with the market except that it has to go down to levels where there is equity.

I would suggest that that will be somewhere below 3,000 for the DOW.

It won’t come to an end until the people living on credit and those that gave them credit are wiped out.


32 posted on 03/05/2009 7:43:25 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Seaplaner

would an enemy of America do anything differently than Obama has?


33 posted on 03/05/2009 7:43:27 PM PST by GeronL (Will bankrupting America lead to socialism?)
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To: Dallas59

Yes, Our Nero fiddles and burns.

We’re getting Obama’d.


34 posted on 03/05/2009 7:44:10 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The market isn’t Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative. The market isn’t political. The market is capitalist, and reflects decisions people make as to how to invest their money.

And the market reflects investors best predictions about the future. The market has plunged almost 3,000 points since Obama’s election. There is a lot of uncertainty and doubt among CAPITALIST investors, who are watching a socialist leaning president do things that aren’t helping the economy or the business climate.

You're right. But market choices are reflecting a vote...

35 posted on 03/05/2009 7:44:44 PM PST by GOPJ (People who can't use the new WH phone system are trying to redesign half the US economy - Brooks)
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To: MindBender26

If you think this is only about Obama, then you need to see this, if you have dsl or broadband. That goes for everyone here who thinks the current financial collapse is just about Obama.

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/02/the-short-and-simple-story-of-the-credit-crisis/


36 posted on 03/05/2009 7:44:46 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 79... 78... 77...)
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To: MindBender26
What if it is all on purpose?

This began last fall when leading investors realized Obama might actually become President.

How much hope can there be when the one at the top is praying... or preying... that we lose.

Of course, there is no chance that this could be Obama's plan.... is there?

No, there is no chance that this is Zero's plan.....he is just the front man, the puppet. There are big guns behind him who have the power and money to create this destruction and have been working toward this for years. Zero told us in now uncertain terms that the plan was to tear down everything about America and remake it.

37 posted on 03/05/2009 7:45:37 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: MindBender26

The foreign money behind 0bama want to see the U.S. destroyed. It is just a matter of time before they take out Citi and BoA for good...one coordinated round of naked short selling and those banks go under. Our economy is about to be crushed... Just wait until gas is back at $4 a gallon and the health care industry (one of of these decent parts of the economy) is effectively nationalized. The Chinese are on a global buying spree of hard assets...what do they know that we don’t?


38 posted on 03/05/2009 7:45:53 PM PST by Raster Man
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To: GeronL

Check it out - if you are a Believer, you won’t want to put this book down until it’s done:

http://www.amazon.com/Shack-William-P-Young/dp/0964729237


39 posted on 03/05/2009 7:46:29 PM PST by Sioux-san
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