Posted on 02/27/2009 5:48:33 PM PST by Macanudo Maduro
Rush said (in jest I believe) "that if this keeps up, I'm moving to New Zealand". That brought a lot of condemnation on this board. As I have been a lurker here for nearly 10 years, I signed up today - only to post to you good folks that we too are getting out while the gettin is good. We have been involved with the paperwork now for nearly three months, and many more months previous in research. You see, when you reach our age - you do not do something this Big for yourselves, you do them for your children. We will not allow our children to have to pay for our generations destruction of the Greatest country in history. We have no faith that even if the GOP regains some power that things will change - only the pace of our subjugation. We cannot see how this country can be brought back to its Constitutional foundation without a revolution - be it a shooting war or not. There are NO men of honor in our government. So you see, Rush fights his fight with words, and if they shut him down - he will no longer be effective. But if he changes his HQ to NZ, his fight can continue. I on the other hand, have only my ability to soldier - so we are getting the family (5 kids, all under 11) out, and if my fellow countrymen decide they love freedom more than life - I alone will be coming back to join them. Maybe we will be neighbors with Rush. There it is - I (for the most part) respect alot of voices on this forum, and would appreciate some of your views on this. Regards.
I sure can understand anyone wanting to get out of here (at times). But, this is the best Country on earth even when it sucks. I’d rather stay and change it or fight what’s happening lately. My paternal and maternal grandparents left their country of birth. Nice place to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there.
Well, thats just what our friends think. My family (distant now) is still there will never leave but they well (I am convinced) part of some of the issues there.
Well said and thank you for saying it.
Anywhere we live, we have to CHOOSE how we live. We can limit or omit the trips to the “glamour” of the city and not frequent the WalMarts, McDonalds, Burger Kings. We live in the country, but close enough to a small town to get in what we need without having to go to a mall hardly ever. We go to small farmers’ markets and buy lots of local produce, we love to travel the few hours to the mountains in the eastern part of our state. Trips to the nearest city to us are few and far between and mostly my husband’s work occasionally requires it, otherwise work takes him on occasional trips that include some enjoyable scenic diversions. Life anywhere is what you make it. -
I fear that if one wants to get their kids out of the “pop” culture and school “activities” and questionable associations, they’ll almost need to either homeschool with a good curriculum or else send their kids to a Christian school.
There’s a lot wrong with popular American culture, and one has to really take pains to hitch it back a notch in their own personal lives. I sure wouldn’t move anywhere else on a whim - even another state in the Union.
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I agree. Maybe because my grandparents came here for a better life, and they found it. They suffered during the Great Depression and endured a whole lot of crap and still succeeded. They provided a better life for their children, something they couldn’t do in their birth countries. I’m grateful my grandparents came here.
The stories my parents told us kids, lots of sacrifice and living in conditions I couldn’t imagine, helped us be the people we are.
We joke about leaving, for Australia mostly, but we’d never leave. Or I won’t leave anyway. This is my country and I’ll fight for it.
this is the best Country on earth even when it sucks
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I’ve lived in some others and have traveled in many...
There’s definitely no place like home...
Dorothy you said it...
And sometimes all it takes is for parents to parent their kids. There’s lots of influences we don’t want our kids to accept as normal. Some of us still send our kids to Catholic and public schools, allow them to listen to music, watch tv shows and movies, play video games and they’re not deliquents or dregs of society. It’s really no different than what my oldest brother (born in the early 1940s) and me (born in the mid to late 60s)have had to deal with. And the sibs in between.
The good old days weren’t all that good ;)
A newbie with a vanity? When did they start allowing that?
I haven’t traveled to other countries other than a vacation in Barbados and that was just a honeymoon so I wasn’t looking at the country much.
I know my grandparents (paternal and maternal) fought to come here back in the late 1800s). Maternal from Italy and paternal from Ireland. I keep in touch with relatives (cousins now since most of the old people died) in Italy and Ireland and they come here to visit. My oldest brother has visited both sides and another brother has also visited. Chances are, I (and my family) won’t ever visit because it’s not financially possible yet. It’s great when they come to visit.
My oldest brother is a piper (in a pipes and drum band). He’s been able to visit Ireland often the last few years, see family, etc. He’s been telling us (threatening) that he’s moving there for the last 15 years yet he’s still here :)
Pinging Albion Wilde for the Pipes/Drum reference.
Other than Israel, this is the only country that has been “kissed” by God...
God, Himself, designed the very idea that is America...
The final undoing of America will be if we ever turn our backs on Israel, the “apple” of God’s eye...
If Obama’s satanic forces come after our homeschooled children in any way, shape, form or fashion, we’ll be gone. That’s our line in the sand. If it comes to that, the America we grew up in and was home to our great-great-grandparents will be dead. I will feel no regret leaving it behind.
Well put.
I’m with you. I don’t want to live in a materialistic society where making money and buying crap are what passes for culture. I want my son to grow up in a Catholic country with a Catholic culture, not a multicultural empire held together by brute force eminating from a central government. I want to work in a country where individual enterprise is respected, small family businesses are protected, and corporations are loyal to the flag above all — not a land where bigger = better and gigantic multinational conglomerates owned by disconnected, anonymous stockholders are allowed to drive Mom & Pop out of business. I want to live in a place where the people work to live instead of living to work, and where a life of shabby comfort with plenty of time off is preferred over a “life” lived for the sake of a huge plastic house, new car, plasma TV, and watered-down beer.
I considered Poland, but it’s in between Protestant Germany and Orthodox Russia — a scary, dangerous location. Austria was also a possibility, but has the same problem as Poland. Portgual? Infected with Modernity, just like Spain. Argentina? An economic and social basket case. Ditto Paraguay and Uruguay. Mexico? La vida no vale nada en Guanajuato. The Philippines? Nice folks, but too damned hot. Italy? Pwned by the Muzis. Japan? Love the people, love the culture, but it’s not Catholic. Vietnam is Catholic, and the people and food there are great, but until the Ho Chi Minh squad is gone, it’s off the list. Besides, it’s even hotter than the Philippines. Ireland? Erin go NO WAY. Belgium? No longer Catholic, and soon to be no longer a country. Luxembourg? Wonderful, orthodox prince, but the country is now dominated by Modernists. Liechtenstein? Yeah, right, like there’s room. Ukraine? Love ‘em, plenty of Catholics, but with Putin next door? You’ve got to be kidding.
That leaves the Vatican, East Timor, and Malta.
So I’m leaning towards France. Yes, the Muzis are thick there, but they’re mostly confined to ghetto war zones. Small-town France is still, you know, French. And the French are a surprisingly bloody-minded people; if the Muzis ever get truly out of control, la france profunde will finally put its foot down and deal with the problem once and for all — with barbed wire and guard towers, followed by boatloads of deported Muzis.
Looks like it’s France, then. Good luck with your quest.
So true.
I don’t think you want to go to New Zealand. I’ve been keeping up with this guy on Youtube where he keeps and update on the economic situation there::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSVBh4PWp_A
I read an article last year about the 1960 Olympic Games in Rome. Muhammad Ali (Cassius Clay at that time) won the gold medal in the light heavyweight boxing division as an 18 year old. A reporter asked him a question about the racial tensions, rioting, segregation, and so on that was going on at that time. Ali’s answer to that reporter was...”Sure we have some problems in the USA, but the USA is still the best country whole world.
Interesting post. I agree with your thoughts about a materialistic society we now have. You described it well.
Americans have many fine qualities, but we all do have faults— and often priorities wrong. A simpler life would probably benefit everyone. Get the focus back on God and family instead of electronics and pop stars.
You are so right. There is a point where sentimentality about anything can become just a lie that we cling to long after it no longer exists. It’s harder as we get older to face a truth when facing it is beyond our physical strength to make changes. I keep up hope that things can turn around from this joker and his cohorts. It will take a lot of prayer and living godly lives, or at least trying. Right now, we’re just trying to hunker down and keep on making a life where we are planted. It may eventually come to the place where we can’t even do that.
If I had it to do over, our boy would have been home schooled, or at least Christian schooled. I had no idea that the public school system had been infiltrated by the left to such a degree back then. - I don’t know who Obama plans to pay taxes for all his big schemes when he runs off all the taxpayers and only is left with leeches.
Here is a summary of the requirements for migrating to Australia. Those over 45 need not apply. Those under 35 with great skills are welcomed.
New Zealand's requiremensts are similar; however, the maximum age is an ancient 56.
I’ve been to Sicily. It’s beautiful in many places, but the farmland is very harsh and full of rocks because it is a small island, and it has been overrun by invaders many times in its history. Being an outpost but close to north Africa, it is a target for Muslims, as is Spain.
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