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Air Force: Dogfighters out, warthogs in
Las Vegas Sun ^ | 1/29/2009 | Megan McCloskey

Posted on 01/29/2009 4:37:49 AM PST by markomalley

Its nickname is “warthog.”

That’s the first clue that flying an A-10 is not the Air Force’s most glamorous mission.

It’s designed to support ground troops, not to engage in the dogfighting that makes up the pop culture image of air combat.

The wars in the Middle East, though, have made close-air support — bombing targets near troops — one of the Air Force’s top missions.

“The A-10 was not the most sexy, popular weapon system the Air Force had,”said Lt. Col. Paul Johnson, the 414th Combat Training Squadron director of operations at Nellis Air Force Base. “But now since we invaded Afghanistan and we invaded Iraq, that is the mission du jour.”

Training, in turn, is adapting.

As a trial, the Air Force is adding a week of training on close-air support to the upcoming Red Flag, the aerial combat exercise run by Nellis. (This is in addition to Green Flag, an ever-evolving, joint exercise with ground forces that prepares units for deployment and focuses on close-air support.)

“It’s the reality of the time that we’re living in now; the fight that’s happening now,” Johnson said.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates and others perceived a reluctance by the Air Force to shift focus to missions tailored for irregular warfare, such as close-air support, intelligence collection and troop movement.

Many just “didn’t think the Air Force was getting it,” according to Jeffrey White, a former, longtime military-capabilities analyst at the Defense Intelligence Agency.

Dominated by fighter pilots, Air Force leadership is sometimes derided by critics as fly boys or the fighter mafia. The service, the criticism goes, is interested only in the glamorous missions. And now that unconventional warfare is the dominant fight, some say the Air Force is only begrudgingly fulfilling its role.

“There are no aces for flying ground support,” White said.

The tension over priorities reflects a decades-long philosophical debate about the role of the Air Force: What mission should be predominant?

Gates, who never undermines the significant contribution the Air Force makes to the wars, has been pushing hard for more emphasis on intelligence collection using unmanned drones (much of which is done out of Creech Air Force Base, north of Las Vegas).

Last spring he vented publicly and forcefully, particularly toward the Air Force, that senior military leaders were “stuck in old ways of doing business.”

Shortly thereafter, and following a report detailing the erosion of the nuclear weapons program, Gates in an unprecedented action fired both the civilian Air Force secretary and the Air Force chief of staff.

Although the nuclear weapons issue is a valid reason alone for the firings, it’s telling that Gates then appointed as chief of staff a general who lacks a call sign, making it the first time the head of the Air Force doesn’t have a fighter or bomber pilot pedigree. Instead, Gen. Norton A. Schwartz has a background in transportation command and is more joint-forces minded.

Still, it would be wrong, White said, to paint the service as a dogmatic bureaucracy that can’t adapt. It can and does.

And, added Michael O’Hanlon, a military expert at the Brookings Institution, “the air-air and intense air-ground missions are still there, still driving most force structure, still absorbing most modernization dollars — not for these wars, but for deterrence and possible future wars.”

Success comes down to achieving a balance between the current needs and the ability to handle future threats. The Air Force would be called on to rapidly wage conventional air warfare if, say, things went bad with Iran or North Korea, White said.

Regardless, now A-10 pilots have a little more cachet, or as Johnson put it, “hair on their chest.”


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: a10; aerospace; greenflag; lowandslow; redflag; usaf; warthog
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Not sexy??? Megan, you don't know what "sexy" is...

1 posted on 01/29/2009 4:37:49 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Darn thing is a flying tank.


2 posted on 01/29/2009 4:39:13 AM PST by fredhead (Liberals think globally, reason rectally, act idiotically.)
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To: markomalley

I can’t begin to tell you how utterly devastating and pure kick ass this platform is. I’ve called them in from the ground and worked with them in the air on JAAT missions, They are a pure joy to watch and I thank God they’re on our side.


3 posted on 01/29/2009 4:42:16 AM PST by TADSLOS (McCain always has a job as Obama's Butt Boy when he loses his seat in 2010)
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To: markomalley

One of my hands down favorite planes.


4 posted on 01/29/2009 4:42:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: fredhead

didn’t they stop making these a good 10 years ago?


5 posted on 01/29/2009 4:45:52 AM PST by wny
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To: TADSLOS

It’s a shame that they’ve been out of production for 20 years or so. They used to build them up in Hagarstown, MD at the Fairchild plant, which closed many years ago. Should have developed a worthy successor by now, but they didn’t.


6 posted on 01/29/2009 4:46:35 AM PST by catman67
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To: markomalley

Love the The A-10 Thunderbolt II.


7 posted on 01/29/2009 4:48:06 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaNation: Tax cheat sworn in as Treasury Secretary --- you can't make this stuff up !!!)
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To: markomalley
The A-10 along with Apache helicopters were responsible for the Highway to Hell victory during the end of Desert Storm.
8 posted on 01/29/2009 4:48:29 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: markomalley
A couple of good A-10 videos :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Iz5MwPsfyo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJSk2Xc3Eq4&feature=related

9 posted on 01/29/2009 4:48:39 AM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: markomalley
It took our Air Force this long to figure this out???

Or...it took this long for it to get reported?

When did the actual mission platform emphasis shift?

10 posted on 01/29/2009 4:51:42 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (Never mistake tolerance for acceptance)
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To: cweese

BTTT


11 posted on 01/29/2009 4:53:00 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: markomalley
Much slower than a fighter, doesn't fly as high as primadonna surveillance, can't be a vehicle for airborne troops, more army than air force and as old as dirt. Having said this - Most beautiful thing I ever saw was an A-10 fire at night! The Hog kicks arse!
12 posted on 01/29/2009 4:54:44 AM PST by appleseed
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To: wny

I think they stopped production more than ten years ago but most of the fleet were recently upgraded with modern avionics.

If you ever see one upside down look closely and you will see a painted silhouette of the canopy near the front, thats to fool ground shooters to fire at the front fuselage where the pilot sits, in a titanium tub!

Its true the Air Force did not like this plane, it was not in their eyes the “macho” image of the WW2 pilot with a scarf type of thing, they are stuck on a pseudo type of bushido code that they must go mano on mano with another enemy aircraft.

Well so far our real enemies have a distinct lack of hi tech aircraft, they do have lots of SAMs, tanks and other ground based weapons, of which the Warthog is arguably the best fixed wing offensive weapon we have.

The only other airframe that could compare to this would be the C-130 gunship in as much as firepower but of course has much more.


13 posted on 01/29/2009 4:57:12 AM PST by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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To: markomalley

‘Not sexy??? Megan, you don’t know what “sexy” is... ‘

Got that right. This is a infantry troop’s best friend on the battlefield, after his rifle.


14 posted on 01/29/2009 5:01:44 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Eye of Unk

The Air Force should be returned to the Army.....


15 posted on 01/29/2009 5:02:35 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: markomalley

There is nothing more sexy to the guys (and girls) on the ground as a hog in the air.


16 posted on 01/29/2009 5:03:05 AM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: markomalley

The A-10: the flying gatlin gun


17 posted on 01/29/2009 5:05:03 AM PST by bobjam
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To: markomalley

Beauty is as beauty does. I’ll bet she looks like Miss Universe to our troops on the ground, and like the devil incarnate to our enemies.


18 posted on 01/29/2009 5:06:28 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Badeye; usmcobra
Got that right. This is a infantry troop’s best friend on the battlefield, after his rifle.

Yup...nothing more comforting in the world than shell casings raining down around you (provided they don't hit your pot).

19 posted on 01/29/2009 5:07:03 AM PST by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Badeye
I don't think returning the Air Force to the Army is necessary, but I think the Army should be allowed to fly fixed wing aircraft to support its soldiers like the Marines. I hate the idea that the Army has to rely on the Air Force for support.
20 posted on 01/29/2009 5:09:42 AM PST by HenpeckedCon (1/20/13 - Obama's Last Day!)
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