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Obama's Birthplace Questioned
The Evening Sun ^ | January 21, 2009 | Frank V. Kulczak

Posted on 01/22/2009 6:19:27 AM PST by real_patriotic_american

Editor:

Where were you born Mr. Obama? This was the question raised in an article by Diana West, a columnist for the Washington Times on Dec. 20, 2008. In her article, she attempted to summarize the background of the Obama birth certificate controversy. This article should be of primary interest to all U.S. citizens because our Constitution requires that our president must be a natural-born citizen of the U.S. This raises the question: Is Mr. Obama a natural-born citizen of the U.S.? None of the information provided to date answers this question. With all the investigative agencies in this country and the ever-nosy media, nobody has been able to secure a copy of the original Obama birth certificate.

What does Mr. Obama's original birth certificate say? Why hasn't Mr. Obama authorized the release of his original birth certificate and put an end to all these questions; unless of course, he has something to hide? Diana West goes on to say, and I agree, that it is nothing less than good citizenship to seek and verify that Mr. Obama is a natural-born U.S. citizen since our elites and the mainstream media failed to bring this important matter to its extremely simple resolution long ago. Instead, we the people only have online access to an Obama document known as a Certification of Live Birth which is a computer generated short form not even accepted by the Hawaii Department of Home Land as adequate verification of Hawaiian identity. The Department of Home Land requires information that is found only on the long original Certification of Live Birth or long form. That still leaves us with the question: Are you a natural-born U.S. citizen Mr. Obama? We will know the answer only when Mr. Obama releases his original birth certificate to the proper authorities. Failure to do so will only create a questionable suspicious aura around this entire matter and leave the voters wondering just who they voted for in the first place.

Frank V. Kulczak Hanover


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; scotus
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To: real_patriotic_american
NOW everyone will jump on the band wagon now that the usurper has gotten into office.
41 posted on 01/22/2009 6:55:14 AM PST by jetson
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To: nuconvert
I can’t even imagine what would happen in this country if that were to happen.

This country could survive the turmoil. What this country won't survive, is the rule of man over the rule of law.

42 posted on 01/22/2009 6:55:27 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: agere_contra
"We are not denying evidence nor malforming the truth. That ... that would be you."

I think some of us here have become so unhinged at the ascension of St. Obama that our judgment has suffered.

If it wasn't the birth certificate business it would be the oath of office fiasco. If not that, then something else. We need a basis, a pretext or excuse, by which we can question Obama's legitimacy as President and, most importantly, feel justified in doing so.

Yes, it is the same behavior that the left practiced starting in 2000 - 2001 with Bush. "Selected, not elected..." etc.

It was crazy talk then and it's crazy talk now.

43 posted on 01/22/2009 6:56:00 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: real_patriotic_american

I agree but how many times has the SCOTUS turned this request down? AFter 4 or so times saying no, why all of a sudden would they say yes?

While I would love to see Obama be proved to be a fake and not a true US citizen, you guys are dreaming and starting to look foolish like the drones on the left who went after Bush.

Pardon the bad metaphor, but I want Obama to make idiotic mistakes to create enough rope to hang himself and have people realize what a mistake it was to elect him to the point people say, “we wish we had Bush back in office.”


44 posted on 01/22/2009 6:56:15 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: real_patriotic_american

Why hasn’t the media reported this story? Because if Zero doesn’t do what they demand, they’ll turn on him quickly-and the story will sell more papers, now that he’s in. Stuff like this will be ratings GOLD-even the riots.


45 posted on 01/22/2009 6:57:20 AM PST by Charles Bronson Forever
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To: icwhatudo
The issue may be “nutty” but then so is the refusal to spend 12 bucks to end it.

Why spend several hundred thousand (maybe even a million at this point) to keep it under wraps, when less than $20 will end everything once and for all.

Occam's Razor.

46 posted on 01/22/2009 6:58:20 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
you guys are dreaming and starting to look foolish

So we'll look foolish, what concern is that of yours?
47 posted on 01/22/2009 6:59:33 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, it’s almost like a diversionary tactic—putting a lot of attention on the TRULY inconsequential fumbling of a few words, so as to put to rest the whole issue of “legitimacy”. The Left is preternaturally skilled at this-—it’s second nature to them, requiring no planning at all.


48 posted on 01/22/2009 7:00:27 AM PST by supremedoctrine ("One was drawing funny faces, but his own was grave"--Richard Hughes, A High Wind in Jamaica)
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To: billorites

I just have one question for you then. Why is Obama spending upwards of a million dollars or more, and using the resources of at least three law firms to fight the release, when a check for $20 can get the original released to end the controversy?


49 posted on 01/22/2009 7:00:41 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Because he got $750M in campaign donations so any money spent defending the title is a drop in the bucket. Why go through the hassle of showing off a long form when it makes it so easy to create a convenient bogeyman. The threat from the BC bloggers is absolutely zero, likewise the gain from displaying the original cert.


50 posted on 01/22/2009 7:04:15 AM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Cost of an original copy of birth certificate $12

Cost of fighting multiple court challenges to being “Natural Born” 1.2 million

Getting called a “KOOK” for simply asking why not spend the $12...

PRICELESS!

(Yes Berg is a nut, but why not spend the $12)
(Yes the API nonsense is a scam, but why not spend the $12)
(Yes, there are other issues, but why not spend the $12)


51 posted on 01/22/2009 7:06:20 AM PST by icwhatudo
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To: nuconvert

Even if it’s proven in the next couple of months that he wasn’t born here, he would never be removed - I can’t even imagine what would happen in this country if that were to happen.””

Worse yet, I can’t imagine what is going to happen if this fraud continues down the socialist road of tyranny. I would take the pain of his removal any day.


52 posted on 01/22/2009 7:06:23 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Let’s have Obama removed from office. The law is the law and Biden would be easier to beat in 2012. Of course. I’d love to see them DQ the entire Democrat ticket.


53 posted on 01/22/2009 7:12:13 AM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: Neoliberalnot
this fraud continues down the socialist road of tyranny

Would it have been better to have the soft socialism of natural born President (and co-president) Clinton? Don't answer, because far too many people here give the wrong answer. The fact is that socialism, which requires the approval of the democratic congress must be fought by the ballot in 2010. The BC controversy, such as it is, must be fought with various spurious lawsuits until it dies a well deserved death. Do not conflate the two.

54 posted on 01/22/2009 7:12:18 AM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: real_patriotic_american
Let's have Obama removed from office

And the consequences in the battle against socialism would be what? Think it through carefully.

55 posted on 01/22/2009 7:13:56 AM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: palmer
Because he got $750M in campaign donations so any money spent defending the title is a drop in the bucket.

Seems to me that would be an illegal use of campaign funds.

56 posted on 01/22/2009 7:16:40 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever

Because the media IS the Democrats disguised as news.


57 posted on 01/22/2009 7:16:47 AM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: IYAS9YAS
"I just have one question for you then. Why is Obama spending upwards of a million dollars or more, and using the resources of at least three law firms to fight the release, when a check for $20 can get the original released to end the controversy?"

Even if I could offer an explanation it would only engender another series of interlocking conspiracies. I honestly don't know.

But that doesn't constitute evidence that he came from outer space.

BDS was not about George Bush, but about his detractors.

ODS isn't any more attractive and can't serve the common ends that most of us on FR share.


58 posted on 01/22/2009 7:17:57 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

The “next big thing” will no doubt be something related to
the GREEN AGENDA this Administration will push like there was literally no tomorrow (which, ironically, they believe)
SO—the money-making opportunities of that Agenda will initially be SUBSIDIZED by OUR funny-money- taxpayer-dollars-of-the-future, and you can be sure a thousand pseudo-entrepreneurs are already in place to recieve grants, start-up capital, etc etc. , all to “develop” ideas
that will never see the light of day, and were never meant to. These are patronage awards, and don’t be surprised if the now-dead horse of global warming finds a new stable for itself, reincarnated in a different guise. Secretary of Carbon Credits, anyone?


59 posted on 01/22/2009 7:19:44 AM PST by supremedoctrine ("One was drawing funny faces, but his own was grave"--Richard Hughes, A High Wind in Jamaica)
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To: IYAS9YAS
Seems to me that would be an illegal use of campaign funds.

No, the FEC allows campaign funds to be used for all sorts of legal defenses. See the case of Vitter defending against ethics charges, just one example of many.

60 posted on 01/22/2009 7:20:16 AM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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