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Mystery Pyramid Built by Newfound Ancient Culture?[Mexico]
National Geographic News ^ | 08 Dec 2008 | Alexis Okeowo

Posted on 12/08/2008 7:39:22 PM PST by BGHater

Several stone sculptures recently found in central Mexico point to a previously unknown culture that likely built a mysterious pyramid in the region, archaeologists say.

Archaeologists first found the objects about 15 years ago in the valley of Tulancingo, a major canyon that drops off into Mexico's Gulf Coast.

Most of the 41 artifacts "do not fit into any of the known cultures of the Valley of Tulancingo, or the highlands of central Mexico," said Carlos Hernández, an archaeologist at Mexico's National Institute of Anthropology and History in the central state of Hidalgo.

Many of the figures are depicted in a sitting position, with their hands placed on their knees.

Some have headdresses or conical hats with snakes at the base, which could represent Ehécatl-Quetzalcóatl, the Aztec god of the wind. One figure shows a man emerging from the jaws of a jaguar.

The sculptures are also made of flat stucco—a combination of fine sand, lime, and water—and painted blue or green to the give the appearance of jade.

All of the artifacts date to the Epiclassic period between A.D. 600 to 900.

Some Mexican and foreign archaeologists have said the sculptures weren't ancient and thus false, Hernández said.

"But by linking all the characteristics that make them different, [such as their location in Tulancingo and time period], allows us to say that they should be considered as a product of a different culture [called Huajomulco]."

The culture is named after an area in Hidalgo.

Baffling Pyramid

Some of the artifacts were also found near the mysterious Huapalcalco pyramid in Hidalgo, whose origin has been a source of debate among archaeologists.

The pyramid's proportions, along with smaller structures that were painted black and white, do not correspond to the Toltec or Teotihuacan cultures of the same area and time period.

The Teotihuacan people, who lived from 400 B.C. to A.D. 700, constructed one of the largest pyramid complexes in the pre-hispanic Americas, which refers to cultures that lived on the continent before the Spanish conquest of the Western Hemipshere.

The Toltecs, who came afterward, were made up of several groups of South Americans that together formed an empire famous for its artists and builders in the Teotihuacan capital of Tula from A.D. 900 until the 1100s.

The pottery found at the site—rough, cylindrical vessels that are gray and reddish-brown in color—is also not familiar to experts.

(Related: "New Digs Decoding Mexico's 'Pyramids of Fire' [October 21, 2005].)

Based on the artifacts' discovery near the pyramid,"it is likely that the Huapalcalco pyramid has been built by people from this new culture," Hernández said.

Thomas Charlton, an archaeologist at University of Iowa, has worked in the state of Hidalgo.

He said that ample evidence—including the new artifacts—links a new pre-hispanic culture to the Huapalcalco pyramid.

"It's a reasonable hypothesis [that] near the Valley of Tulancingo, there is a site that looks like it existed between the fall of the Teotihuacan and the beginning of the Tula [Toltec]," Charlton added.

"We know that there's an occupation [from this time] near Tulancingo.

"After the Teotihuacan, there were all sorts of smaller states throughout Mexico. It's part of the cycle after the fall of an empire."

(Read about Mexico's "pyramid of death" in National Geographic magazine.)

Creative Era

Michael Smith, an archaeologist at Arizona State University, agreed.

"The notion that there would be an independent culture in [the Epiclassic] period is not surprising at all," he said.

"It was a very creative period, with rich development."

Future excavations of Huapalcalco should solidify the link to a new pre-hispanic culture, and help archaeologists glean clues about this lost time, Hernández said.

"The [Epiclassic] period is considered a time of dynamic development—new trade, cities, and development," said Arizona State's Smith, "but one we don't know much about."

The origin of the mysterious Huapalcalco pyramid (above, in an undated photo) in the central Mexican state of Hidalgo has been a source of debate among archaeologists.

But several stone artifacts found near the site suggest a previously unknown culture, the Huajomulco, built the structure, archaeologists said in December 2008.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: ancient; culture; godsgravesglyphs; mexico; pyramid

1 posted on 12/08/2008 7:39:23 PM PST by BGHater
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To: SunkenCiv

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2 posted on 12/08/2008 7:39:54 PM PST by BGHater (Obama is a Neocon.)
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To: BGHater

The pyramid pictured almost looks Egyptian.

Then again, I am listening to Herodotus’ Histories right now, so maybe my perception is skewed. ;)


3 posted on 12/08/2008 7:42:22 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: BGHater
One figure shows a man emerging from the jaws of a jaguar.

How do they know that it isn't the other way around. Perhaps the jaguar is eating the man.

4 posted on 12/08/2008 7:51:23 PM PST by PAR35
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To: BGHater

Freemasonry is even more Antient and mysterious than I thought!


5 posted on 12/08/2008 7:51:48 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: BGHater
Now I remember where I left my bike


6 posted on 12/08/2008 7:52:01 PM PST by JoeProBono ( Loose Associations - Postcards from My Mind)
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To: BGHater

Is there a link to this article?


7 posted on 12/08/2008 8:00:28 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: JoeProBono

They were making pretty modern-looking bikes 1400 or so years ago.


8 posted on 12/08/2008 8:00:43 PM PST by webschooner
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To: webschooner; JoeProBono; mikrofon; martin_fierro
They were making pretty modern-looking bikes 1400 or so years ago.

These things go in cycles.

9 posted on 12/08/2008 8:03:44 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Schwinn-g!)
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To: Charles Henrickson

What! The pyramids go in the saddle bags of the cycle? Holy Batman magic! These dewds were more advanced than I realized!

Whodathunkit?


10 posted on 12/08/2008 8:08:13 PM PST by webschooner
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11 posted on 12/08/2008 8:33:02 PM PST by JoeProBono ( Loose Associations - Postcards from My Mind)
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12 posted on 12/09/2008 6:59:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, December 6, 2008 !!!)
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To: CE2949BB

No - this looks a lot like others I have seen in various places around Mexico before they have been reconstructed. The Mexican pyramids are very different than the Egyptian.


13 posted on 12/09/2008 9:54:27 PM PST by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this..")
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To: CE2949BB; SunkenCiv; All

This pyramid is somewhat reminiscent of the pyramids of the Sun and Moon at Teotihuacan which I visited and climbed in 1957. It has the pattern of several terraced levels, with steps leading from the ground and from level to level, as did the ones I saw. The terraced levels do bear some resemblance to the stepped pyramids like Saqqara of Egypt, but the ornamentation of the stonework I think is much more elaborate in Mexico.


14 posted on 12/09/2008 11:51:22 PM PST by gleeaikin
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The terraced levels do bear some resemblance to the stepped pyramids like Saqqara of Egypt,

That's probably what made me think of Egypt.

For some reason - multiculturalism? who knows! - the Egyptian pyramids were brought up almost every year of school I can remember.

In retrospect, it's strange: we have pyramids and ancient civilizations here in the Americas, but our schools - at least, for me - focus on the other side of the world.

I don't mean to take away any of the majesty of the Egyptian pyramids, just would have liked a more local focus.

15 posted on 12/10/2008 12:01:35 AM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: BGHater

Re the pyramid in the photo:

Clearly faked! Tourists pick them up as fast as they’re cobbled together.


16 posted on 12/10/2008 2:24:37 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Public education is a welfare program. Do you indulge?)
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To: CE2949BB

The steps appear to be Mayan.


17 posted on 12/10/2008 4:27:59 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of wafarin)
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