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Readers Digest Version of Obama Qualifications Issue (Vanity)
nufsed | nufsed

Posted on 12/07/2008 8:03:41 AM PST by nufsed

I have been keeping my children and some friends up-to-date. I just sent this e-mail.

I would welcome corrections or point out omissions.

Is Obama a natural born citizen, as required by the constitution?

By not releasing his documents and refusing to reply to the court, Obama is leaving himself open for ongoing court cases and allegations.

He has spent $850,000 to date fighting cases in 17 states to avoid releasing the requested documents which would prove he is or is not a natural born citizen, as required by the constitution. It costs $12 for him to get a copy of a Hawaiian birth certificate.

There was another case filed with the Supremes Thursday and two more are coming on Monday. Also, the case in Cal was rejected by the state court and is being sent to the USSC, after the secretary of state said it was not her responsibility to ensure that candidates are qualified. She said each party was supposed to qualify their own nominee; a process which never occurred. I provided my e-mail from the secretary to Alan Keyes to use in his suit in California.

Each case calls for something a little different. Example: tell the Sec of state to check the birth certificate; tell Obama to produce the certificate, prohibit the electors from several states from voting for Obama because he is not qualified. Taken collectively there is a wide range of allegations and requests for action by the court.

Thursday, there was a video posted on youtube in which secretary of commerce to be, Bill Richardson, says clearly, in Spanish, that Obama is an immigrant. Even if you don’t speak Spanish the words are easy to translate since they are very similar to the English words.

Another web site has posted his selective service registration pointing all of the irregularities and concluding that it is fraudulent.

The certificate of life birth claimed by factcheck.com to be authentic has now been shown to be a forgery.

Another group is alleging that his application for the bar exam in Illinois contains false information.

In 1961, the state of Hawaii allowed foreign born people to file a certification of live birth in Hawaii. The officials in Hawaii have said they have the original document on file, but none of them has said he was born in Hawaii.

It is alleged that when he went to school in Indonesia that he became an Indonesian citizen as required by their law and that in order to do that he would have to give up his American citizenship. In order to come back he would be naturalized and not natural born.

Lastly, it is alleged that he registered for college as a foreign student.

If he was born in Kenya, is not natural born, or filed for college admissions and aid as a foreign citizen, he has defrauded the country and committed a crime against the constitution. His whole live will unravel and we will have a national crisis, even though there is a constitutional succession provided for. There may be riots. And the media will wail and gnash their teeth, since most of them are refusing to cover the allegations and court cases. On the other hand, we would have established ourselves as a country under the rule of law instead of personal privilege, power, money, and fraud.

If the court does not act, there will be an appeal to congress to initiate an investigation leading to impeachment. However, the democrats control both houses, so it is expected they will not impeach him no matter what evidence of ineligibility and fraud exists. So much for the constitution!

Groups are raising money to challenge the bills he signs as not having the authority of law, should the USSC fail to compel him to release his documents.

Even if the Supremes do not require the president-elect to reveal these documents and the congress does not act, these issues will not go away. Whether he serves 4 or 8 years protected from court cases as president, they will file fraud charges against him, in various states, when he leaves office.

What kind of person would spend nearly a million dollars to hide a $12 document? Who would waste the time of so many attorneys, judges, and citizens who are merely asking that he prove he meets the constitutional requirements to serve as president? Why would a person who wants to be president reject a simple constitutional challenge to his qualifications?

Even many democrat voters are now asking “Why doesn’t he just release his records and prove what loons these people are?” Innocent people do not act this way. All of this would go away if he would simply release the requested documents, as McCain did within two days after being asked about being born in Panama, and other candidates, except Clinton (medical records) and Kerry (military records), have done in the past.


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KEYWORDS: anothercrackerhead; artbell; bc; birthcertificate; blackhelicopters; certifigate; constitution; election; obama; tinfoilhat
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To: njusa

Thanx


61 posted on 12/07/2008 5:05:33 PM PST by nufsed
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To: NewEnglander

thank you


62 posted on 12/07/2008 5:07:03 PM PST by nufsed
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To: Mack the knife

got it


63 posted on 12/07/2008 5:08:20 PM PST by nufsed
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To: nufsed

That’s a great idea, nufsed! If I had time, I’d tackle it.


64 posted on 12/07/2008 9:42:35 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: nufsed

Well done! I took the liberty of just sending it to a few on my e-mail list, as an update on our ‘president alleged’


65 posted on 12/07/2008 9:53:56 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: TommyDale

SZee #11 above.


66 posted on 12/07/2008 9:59:44 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Albertafriend

And his legal teams and Axelrod’s operatives have been burying and sequestering his documents and history since before the opening of the 2007 races.


67 posted on 12/07/2008 10:04:47 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: NewEnglander

Not getting an image ... photobucket welcome but no image.


68 posted on 12/07/2008 10:06:25 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: mcshot
He says one thing, demanding disclosure from others, but does a very different thing when it is his responsibility ... kind of like voting present in the IL Senate. Here's what the Marxist liar said in the U.S. Senate, regarding Bush's SCOTUS nominees:

"Let me also say that I remain distressed that the White House during this confirmation process, which overall went smoothly, failed to provide critical documents as part of the record that could have provided us with a better basis to make our judgment with respect to the nomination. This White House continues to stymie efforts on the part of the Senate to do its job. I hope with the next nominee who comes up for the Supreme Court that the White House recognizes that in fact it is its duty not just to the Senate but to the American people to make sure we can thoroughly and adequately evaluate the record of every single nominee who comes before us."
--Barack Hussein Obama

69 posted on 12/07/2008 10:10:34 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Sherman Logan

SL, would your opinion change were it to be revealed that BHO used citizenship from Kenay or Indonesia to game something in college entry or funding or for a passport?


70 posted on 12/07/2008 10:13:50 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Sherman Logan
With this assertion I feel you reveal you do not understand or are purposely obfuscating why the framers placed the eligibility provisions in the Constitution: (if he used foreign citizenship to game college entry or funding) "... it would have zero effect on his citizenship status."

Such adult behavior, since he was born with divided loyalties, would prove he has exercised divided loyalty thus disqualifyiung himself as 'only' a natural born citizen.

71 posted on 12/07/2008 10:20:10 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: nufsed; pissant; LucyT; SE Mom; MHGinTN; Calpernia

Here’s a good thread to send newbies to. I suggested Nufsed should post his reasonably succinct summary so that we can do this. I note that several posters are putting up their own versions of FAQs, because they keep getting the same questions, so let’s go ahead and post our own blurbs here and folks can come up to speed.

Thanks, Nufsed.


72 posted on 12/07/2008 10:49:40 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Kevmo; RegulatorCountry; JNL; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; ...

Thank you, Kevmo. Good idea.

Ping.


73 posted on 12/07/2008 10:58:46 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Kevmo
Is that an invitation to write an oped and post it on this thread? ;^)
74 posted on 12/07/2008 11:01:29 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Sherman Logan
might have made it to Congress or the White House on his own>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Not the White House, unless he had been born in the United States.

Article II of the Constitution assures loyalty to Americans and the Constitution. That is its intended effect. People forget that for some reason. And if anyone can be said to have divided, and diminsihed loyalty to the USA, it is Obama.

If Obama had served in the US military, putting his life on the line in service to our nation, I might not be quite as suspicious of Obama's loyalty to the United STates, but his social history reveals his divided and dimnished loyalty to our nation and her people.

Winnie wasn't born in the USA was he?

75 posted on 12/07/2008 11:09:36 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: MHGinTN

Something in my mind is rattling around about some posts you’ve generated, answering the kinds of questions we get over & over. Maybe I have the wrong freeper.


76 posted on 12/07/2008 11:15:17 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: MHGinTN

See Post #40 in this thread. Image is shown there.


77 posted on 12/07/2008 11:19:04 PM PST by NewEnglander
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To: Kevmo

Much posted at my blogsite. You might have read it there. Or you might be thinking of Jeff Heads’ extensives site or ‘Obamafile.’


78 posted on 12/07/2008 11:20:54 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MacSuibhne

Ping!


79 posted on 12/07/2008 11:22:56 PM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Kevmo

Hey, I want to read your summary! Ping me when you get it up.


80 posted on 12/07/2008 11:30:39 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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