Beethoven was black?

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Beethoven: Revealing His True Identity

 

 In the 15^th and 16^th century, written history underwent a massive campaign of misinformation and deception. With the European slave trade in full swing, Afrikans were transported to various parts of the world and were stripped of every aspect of their humanity, and in most of western civilization, were no longer considered human. This triggered a wholesale interpretation of history that methodically excluded Afrikans from any respectful mention, other than a legacy of slavery. This can result in being taught, or socialized, from one perspective. In this instance, historical information tends to flow strictly from a European perspective. No judgment of right or wrong is being made here, only that the breadth was very narrow in scope.

In an age where history is seriously being rewritten, new information is coming forth that is shocking intellectual sensitivities. What was once considered written in stone is now melting away with the discovery of facts that heretofore have been hidden or omitted; things so different that they are generally classified as controversial or unusual.

What specifically is being referenced, is the true identity of Ludwig van Beethoven, considered Europe’s greatest classical music composer. Directly, Beethoven was a black man. Specifically, his mother was a Moor, that group of Muslim Africans who conquered parts of Europe--making Spain their capital--for some 800 years.

In order to make such a substantial statement, presentation of verifiable evidence is compulsory. Let's start with what some of Beethoven's contemporaries and biographers say about his appearance. Frau Fisher, a close friend of Beethoven, described him with “blackish-brown complexion.” Frederick Hertz, German anthropologist, used these terms to describe him: “Negroid traits, dark skin, flat, thick nose.”

Emil Ludwig, in his book “Beethoven,” says: “His face reveals no trace of the German. He was so dark that people dubbed him Spagnol [dark-skinned].” Fanny Giannatasio del Rio, in her book “An Unrequited Love: An Episode in the Life of Beethoven,” wrote “His somewhat flat broad nose and rather wide mouth, his small piercing eyes and swarthy [dark] complexion, pockmarked into the bargain, gave him a strong resemblance to a mulatto.” C. Czerny stated, “His beard--he had not shaved for several days--made the lower part of his already brown face still darker.”

 Following are one word descriptions of Beethoven from various writers: Grillparzer, “dark”; Bettina von Armin, “brown”; Schindler, “red and brown”; Rellstab, “brownish”; Gelinek, “short, dark.”

Newsweek, in its Sept. 23, 1991 issue stated, “Afrocentrism ranges over the whole panorama of human history, coloring in the faces: from Australopithecus to the inventors of mathematics to the great Negro composer Beethoven.”

Of course, in the world of scholarship there are those who take an opposite view. In the book The Changing Image of Beethoven by Alessandra Comini, an array of arguments are presented. Donald W. MacArdle, in a 1949 Musical Quarterly article came to the conclusion that there was “no Spanish, no Belgian, no Dutch, no African” in Beethoven's genealogy. Dominque-Rene de Lerma, the great musical bibliologist, came to the same conclusion.

Included in this amazing discussion is a reference made of Beethoven’s teacher, Andre de Hevesy, in his book, Beethoven The Man. “Everyone knows the incident at Kismarton, or Eisenstadt, the residence of Prince Esterhazy, on his birthday. In the middle of the first allegro of Haydn’s symphony, His Highness asked the name of the author. He was brought forward.

“‘What!’ exclaimed the Prince, ‘the music is by the blackamoor (a black Moor). Well, my fine blackamoor, henceforth thou art in my service.’

“‘What is thy name?’

“‘Joseph Haydn.’”

We have all been fed false information for reasons previously mentioned. It is no secret that scholars, writers, critics, advertisers and Hollywood have changed history for their own specific reasons. What is uniquely different in the intellectual landscape, people of color now have an army of sophisticated scholars to combat the continuation and dissemination of false information that has been accepted as standard, as well as the canon in academia.

It is hoped that the revealing of this information will motivate others to critically look at all data flowing in their brains for authenticity. Hollywood is notorious for changing facts. I am not saying to hate Hollywood, but we do have to hold it accountable for disseminating inaccurate depictions, especially when it changes the course of history, by which our children are influenced.

Graphic credits:

1.) Louis Letronne, Beethoven, 1814, pencil drawing.

2.) Blasius Hofel, Beethoven, 1814, monochrome facsimile of engraving after a pencil drawing by Louis Letronne.

3.) Engraving by Blasius Hofel, Beethoven, 1814, color facsimile of engraving after a pencil drawing by Louis Letronne. This engraving was regarded in Beethoven's circle as particularly lifelike. Beethoven himself thought highly of it, and gave several copies to his friends.

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Well of course? Everyone in the world who was famous was either gay, black, muslim or both! Jesus was black gay and Musilm, Moses was black gay and Musilm, Noah was black gay and Musilm, Cleopatra was black gay and Musilm, King Arthur was black gay and Musilm, EVERYBODY FAMOUS WAS! </sigh>

[autumnraine]

Hey! You know, you are right. It seems that the paintings have been darkened to fit their idea of the 'broad, flat nose'. Which my ex-husband had this exact same nose, had dark curly (not kinky) hair. But to my knowledge he wasn't black.

[autumnraine]

Whoa!! That’s HUGE!

Sorry.

[autumnraine]

Well, that explains ALOT.

No music would drive me crazy too!

[SunkenCiv]

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[FredZarguna]

DONALD: MOOPS? LET ME SEE THAT. THAT'S NOT MOOPS YOU JERK, IT'S MOORS. IT'S A MISPRINT.

GEORGE: I'm sorry, but the card says MOOPS.

If a web page says Ludwig Van was black, the clock we must turn back.

[SlapHappyPappy]

For what it’s worth:

http://racerelations.about.com/b/2007/02/17/why-obama-wouldnt-be-the-first-president-with-african-ancestry.htm

[OneWingedShark]

>>It actually is by definition: “It’s a form of snickering, sort of a short snicker-snort.”

Snigger
#1: A stifled laugh.
...

Yep, I was right, a stifled laugh, which would be something like a snicker-and-snort (trying to stop).

[Salamander]

He looks like Orson Welles.

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

Any thoughts? Yes. The Multicultural Mafia won’t be happy until history is completely revised toward the belief that Jesus Christ and all of the greatest men in Western Civilization were eithe black, hispanic or women.

Who needs the truth when you can just make things up out of whole cloth?

So Beethoven was dark. My Portuguese father was dark and he sure as hell wasn’t black, or else somebody retouched his picture that showed a 4-year old with blonde hair and blue eyes. Olive skin does not make you “black”.

[tallyhoe]

Yep Christopher Columbus was a gay Black guy in woman’s cloths!

[Salamander]

OMG!

I *swear* I had not seen your post when I blathered mine....LOL!

[at least now if people think I’m crazy, I’ll have company]

;]

[AmericanMade1776]

Yeah , you know Elvis was black too.

[Enchante]

I wish the Afro-centric racists could make up their minds what they want us to believe — most of the time the story is that the glories of “Western Civ” are worthless or nearly so (Jesse Jackson at Stanford in 1988 (?date?): “hey hey, ho ho, Western Civ has got to go”), but then every now and then they want to claim “credit” for all of it..... you know, “Black Athena” and everything great in Ancient Greek civilization was stolen from “black” Egyptians, and now I suppose everything since ancient times that is worth anything will turn out to be “black” heritage in reality.

[quadrant]

None of this article proves Beethoven was black or had black ancestors.

[Jeff Chandler]

Play that funky music, white boy...

[Maine Mariner]

I was quite surprised by most of the names on your list.
One that was not a surprise was Bill Clinton. After all he was our first black president

[Salamander]

What’s a classical music thread without rainbow wigs and head-banging bikers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1Vha3jHiJw

[bigheadfred]

I thought ya was just being sarcastic s/n...

[Salamander]

Could be worse.

If Hillary! had won, we’d be “finding out” that the founding fathers were all lesbians in drag.