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AR-15 Purchase - Value and Assembly
FR | 10 Nov. 2008 | Self

Posted on 11/10/2008 7:14:34 AM PST by thefrankbaum

All,

Like many others, I am considering purchasing a semi-automatic long gun. Most likely, an AR-15 as .223 is still fairly easy to come by, and there are a number of "regular" rifles which use the ammunition, so I have some faith that it will remain available for some time period after other ammunition types are outlawed, should that occur.

We have a number of hunting rifles, some WWII German equipment, a few handguns, and plenty of ammunition. I am wondering if any FReepers can shed some light on the ease and advisibility of purchasing a kit from Model 1 Sales and a stripped down lower receiver from some other retailer and then assembling my own weapon. Do people advise against this, or does it seem like a good approach which will allow me to spend more on magazines and ammunition?

Also, I'm currenting thinking of purchasing an A2 upper and 20" barrel, but I know people have strong feelings, so I'd enjoy hearing some other input.


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To: SJSAMPLE
There’s really no reason to go with the A2 anymore.

Unless you want to shoot in a service rifle competition. I tried to compete in a service rifle match not long ago and they wouldn't let me shoot because I had a A3- even though I had the standard carry handle attached.

They told me that it was standard practice.
41 posted on 11/10/2008 8:27:12 AM PST by WackySam (I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.)
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To: WackySam

I forgot about Service Rifle.
Strange they won’t let you shoot with the carry handle.
I’m pretty sure that free float tubes aren’t standard issue, either ;)


42 posted on 11/10/2008 11:58:55 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: thefrankbaum

Can I purchase parts kits while living in NYC?


43 posted on 11/10/2008 12:01:48 PM PST by wastedyears (Every FReeper is on Obama's Black List. He will try to have us all "taken care of." Mark my words)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Is it the 1/2 MOA click stops on the A3 carry handle?


44 posted on 11/10/2008 12:10:59 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Psalm 73
..".223 inches diameter, 5.56 millimeter."

Oh stop - I know THAT, but ammo is not interchangeable, so why do they note them together as if they were?

Well, yes they are interchangable...The military ball ammo (5.56) just creates a higher chamber pressure and could cause jamming...But they ARE interchangable... .

45 posted on 11/10/2008 12:18:03 PM PST by Boonie
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To: thefrankbaum

http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspx?id=54

$599 brand new. I love mine.


46 posted on 11/10/2008 1:27:39 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: thefrankbaum
I had the AK's, cheap, reliable and easy to abuse. Accurate, hell no. Also vulnerable to AWB legislation where 7.62X39 ammo goes up in smoke.

Just picked up my own AR (like I used to carry in the Corps) ... fell in love with this rifle all over again.

If I need to go hunting I'll use my bolt action ....

47 posted on 11/10/2008 1:36:53 PM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: Boonie; Psalm 73

.223 in a 5.56 chamber is fine. Otherway around could cause problems because of chamber pressure and slight dimensional differences.


48 posted on 11/10/2008 1:36:53 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Psalm 73

See response 45. I recently had precisely this discussion with an Old Salt at one of the shops I frequent; he gave me the same answer. Generally, rifles marked specifically 5.56 NATO will take both 5.56 NATO and .223. Rifles marked .223, on the other hand, may have trouble digesting the NATO rounds due to the pressure differential. However, I got the distinct impression that you should be okay - more or less - going either way.


49 posted on 11/10/2008 1:38:56 PM PST by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: SJSAMPLE
I forgot about Service Rifle.

Scratch what I said - I just checked a few websites and it appears it is now legal to use flat tops in Service Rifle.
50 posted on 11/10/2008 1:43:25 PM PST by WackySam (I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.)
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To: WackySam

Since the M16A4 rifle is officially adopted, flat tops meet the requirements.

That’s good to hear.
I’ve never been a SR shooter.


51 posted on 11/10/2008 1:52:50 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: wastedyears
I dunno - it would depend on what parts you are ordering and the make-up of the firearm. I believe if you have a less than 10rd mag, non-collapsing stock, no bayonet lug, no flash suppressor, and no grenade launcher (i.e. just a pistol-grip rifle), then you are okay. That is only NY State though, no idea about what rules NYC has.
52 posted on 11/10/2008 3:15:06 PM PST by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: MileHi

DPMS any good? Seems like I’m hearing that I should be looking for Colt or Bushmaster.


53 posted on 11/10/2008 3:16:51 PM PST by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: thefrankbaum

I recently bought one. I love it. My wife loves shooting it. It is a great rifle and great buy. You will not go wrong getting it.


54 posted on 11/10/2008 3:17:58 PM PST by RetiredArmy (America is entering four very long and cold years. First victim: liberty)
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To: thefrankbaum

As good as my Colt and a friends Bushy. Read the specs’ at that link. Love mine.


55 posted on 11/10/2008 3:25:36 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: thefrankbaum

If ya go this route, check with the boys at AR-15.net. They say the uppers are good, but don’t get their bolts. Find one elsewhere.


56 posted on 11/10/2008 3:27:19 PM PST by gundog (We shall overcome.)
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To: MileHi

Specs look great - just dunno about build quality. $600 seems too good to be true...


57 posted on 11/10/2008 3:28:43 PM PST by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: thefrankbaum

That’s why I bought it.


58 posted on 11/10/2008 3:41:20 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Lurker

WASR bump. Got an AR a while back...guess I’ve got better foresight than some...but the booklet says not to fire over 20 rounds in a minute, clean, lubricate...all good ideas. But I play in the rain and sand, and my toys do, too. I’d drop an AK in sand, pick it up, slosh it in a puddle, and she’s good to go.


59 posted on 11/10/2008 3:58:31 PM PST by gundog (We shall overcome.)
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To: thefrankbaum

DPMS is good stuff. A lot of the price of a built rifle is the 21% Federal exise tax on a complete rifle.


60 posted on 11/10/2008 4:01:02 PM PST by gundog (We shall overcome.)
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