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The Greatest US Presidents - The Times US presidential rankings
Times Online ^ | 31 Oct 2008 | Nico Hines

Posted on 10/31/2008 4:51:21 PM PDT by BGHater

Who is the greatest of them all? While Barack Obama and John McCain battle to become the 44th President of the United States, we asked a panel of experts from The Times to rank the previous Commanders-in-Chief in order of greatness.

1. Abraham Lincoln

1861-65 (Republican, National Union)

The No 1: our panel chose the radical Republican who kept the fledgling nation alive when it could have collapsed altogether.

The first Republican President, Lincoln led the defeat of the Confederate states in the American Civil War and freed around four million slaves by issuing the Emancipation Proclamation. The formal abolition of slavery in the US was ratified soon after his death.

He succeeded in unifying the nation militarily as well as laying out a moral imperative for its governance in his Gettysburg address. During the final days of the civil war he was shot dead by John Wilkes Booth.

"Fought and won a just war, kept the United States united and created the ground for a country which could live up to its constitution." Camilla Cavendish, columnist.

"Had the coolest-sounding presidential name of all time." Chris Ayres, Los Angeles correspondent.

2. George Washington

1789-97 (No party)

Washington led the army that vanquished the British during the American Revolutionary War before presiding over the drafting of the Constitution. When it came to elect the first US President he was chosen unanimously by electors representing the 11 states of the Union.

He was celebrated as the Father of the Nation after expanding the Union and overseeing the creation of a taxation system, a national bank and the first Supreme Court judges. His Farewell Address also became one of the cornerstones of American democracy but he still missed out on top spot in our rankings.

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1. Abraham Lincoln 2. George Washington 3. FDR

8. Ronald Reagan

20. George H.W. Bush

23. Bill Clinton

25. Gerald Ford

32. Jimmy Carter

37= George W. Bush

37= Richard Nixon

1 posted on 10/31/2008 4:51:22 PM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater
Sorry - NO ONE is worse than Jimmy Carter.

At least not yet.

2 posted on 10/31/2008 4:56:08 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: BGHater
Pretty good for being the Times (London). President Reagan among the 10 best presidents ever. Who would have thunk...

President GW Bush not the worst ever - another astonishing result from the leftist ignoramuses on the Times.

3 posted on 10/31/2008 4:58:53 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: BGHater

Lincoln, FDR, Teddy, Truman, and Wilson all in the top 10... Hurray for government expansion!


4 posted on 10/31/2008 4:59:34 PM PDT by djsherin (The federal government: Because your life isn't screwed up enough!)
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To: skeeter

You beat me to it — I was going to say that any poll that doesn’t rank carter dead last is off base. Also — Lincoln Before Washington? Gimme a break.


5 posted on 10/31/2008 5:00:38 PM PDT by publius1 (Just to be clear: my position is no.)
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To: BGHater

OK, folks, let’s rate British PMs

1. Margaret Thatcher
2. Winston Churchill
3. None.


6 posted on 10/31/2008 5:01:39 PM PDT by Walrus (Those who work should eat better than those who do not)
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To: BGHater
In my opinion, top billing goes to George Washington, who presided over the birth of our democracy. His character alone prevented a slide into anarchy, monarchy or worse. Thousands of years of rule by kings, divine right, etc., then suddenly Washington...a man who gives up the ability to be king in order that we should have a government of popular sovereignty. There can be no greater achievement in my estimation. Then clearly, Abraham Lincoln, the man who saved it all from ruination. Where I think we go off the rails is FDR. How can liberals excoriate George W. Bush for Guantanamo and build statues to FDR on the Tidal Basin when he imprisoned thousands of Americans in concentration camps because of their race? Unreal. Reagan was obviously one of the greats, as was Theodore Roosevelt and of course Thomas Jefferson. Jimmy Cater at 32? He should be dead last - 43. It is way to early to rate George W. Bush.
7 posted on 10/31/2008 5:03:17 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: publius1

1. James Madison
43. Tie John Adams, FDR


8 posted on 10/31/2008 5:03:19 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: BGHater

Who writes this stuff? One of the endearing myths of American history is that the Emancipation Proclamation freed the slaves: It freed no one! All one has to do is read the damn thing and with a half ounce of brain matter and an iota of familiarity with American history one will easily conclude (correctly( that the EP did not free anyone and was not intended to free anyone.


9 posted on 10/31/2008 5:03:27 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: publius1

Agreed. Washington should be #1.


10 posted on 10/31/2008 5:04:34 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: BGHater

i may be alone in this... but as iraq makes progress and becomes a thriving country and a great democracy.. i think geoerge w. will be one of our greats..


11 posted on 10/31/2008 5:05:07 PM PDT by outlawjake
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To: skeeter

FDR is not number 3. Maybe something like 10 and only because he happened to help win WWII. Then again his selfishness in staying president while he was basically comatose at Yalta helped cause the cold war.

Truman is 7.

George Bush will get up there if Iraq is successful. You can’t really judge a president until about a generation after he’s left office.

I agree with most of the list at the top though. Props for putting Eisenhower and Reagan so high. They are characteristically underrated by our lefties here.

LBJ is an anomaly in the top. He was a disastrous president and his poor management of increasing civil rights led to mass riots and disaster on the domestic front. His mismanagement of the Vietnam war puts him near the bottom of the list as well.

Also carter is the worst of this century, well below nixon and dubya.


12 posted on 10/31/2008 5:05:07 PM PDT by DiogenesLaertius
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To: ScaniaBoy
President GW Bush not the worst ever - another astonishing result from the leftist ignoramuses on the Times.

FDR, Hoover, and Carter should all be tied for last- right behind W.
13 posted on 10/31/2008 5:05:52 PM PDT by WackySam (Do we really want a President who has terrorists on his speed dial?)
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To: BGHater

Figured it would be a fish wrapper news source from a muzzie country to come up with this list.


14 posted on 10/31/2008 5:06:45 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: publius1

Carter was an idiot, but he didn’t do more damage than FDR, Wilson, or Johnson.


15 posted on 10/31/2008 5:06:56 PM PDT by djsherin (The federal government: Because your life isn't screwed up enough!)
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To: BGHater

Harding and Coolidge were both underrated. Although President Harding had his scandals, his administration was still a success in returning the United States to “normalcy” and his low tax policies helped create the boom of the 1920’s.


16 posted on 10/31/2008 5:10:12 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: americanophile

Pet peeve of mine: We’re a Republic not a democracy.
I disagree about Lincoln and Teddy though.


17 posted on 10/31/2008 5:10:15 PM PDT by djsherin (The federal government: Because your life isn't screwed up enough!)
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To: gorush

I agree that Madison should be rated far higher than he usually is. I think your assessment of Adams is a little harsh. No doubt motivated by the A&SA, and I agree that was a horrible thing, but the more I read about the atmosphere at the time, I can understand the motivation behind what, by today’s standards, would be an unbearable outrage. It is an unending blemish on the record of an otherwise stalwart crusader for American freedom and prosperity. Of course today, we have the “Fairness Doctrine” rearing its ugly head again...


18 posted on 10/31/2008 5:10:49 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: outlawjake

I think he’ll be remembered as a Truman.

But then again while most people look favorably at Truman I don’t.


19 posted on 10/31/2008 5:11:56 PM PDT by djsherin (The federal government: Because your life isn't screwed up enough!)
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To: DiogenesLaertius

FDR-the man who gave half of Europe to Stalin.


20 posted on 10/31/2008 5:12:03 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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