[BGHater]

UK Paper.

1. Abraham Lincoln 2. George Washington 3. FDR

8. Ronald Reagan

20. George H.W. Bush

23. Bill Clinton

25. Gerald Ford

32. Jimmy Carter

37= George W. Bush

37= Richard Nixon

[skeeter]

Sorry - NO ONE is worse than Jimmy Carter.

At least not yet.

[ScaniaBoy]

Pretty good for being the Times (London). President Reagan among the 10 best presidents ever. Who would have thunk...

President GW Bush not the worst ever - another astonishing result from the leftist ignoramuses on the Times.

[djsherin]

Lincoln, FDR, Teddy, Truman, and Wilson all in the top 10... Hurray for government expansion!

[Walrus]

OK, folks, let’s rate British PMs

1. Margaret Thatcher
2. Winston Churchill
3. None.

[americanophile]

In my opinion, top billing goes to George Washington, who presided over the birth of our democracy. His character alone prevented a slide into anarchy, monarchy or worse. Thousands of years of rule by kings, divine right, etc., then suddenly Washington...a man who gives up the ability to be king in order that we should have a government of popular sovereignty. There can be no greater achievement in my estimation. Then clearly, Abraham Lincoln, the man who saved it all from ruination. Where I think we go off the rails is FDR. How can liberals excoriate George W. Bush for Guantanamo and build statues to FDR on the Tidal Basin when he imprisoned thousands of Americans in concentration camps because of their race? Unreal. Reagan was obviously one of the greats, as was Theodore Roosevelt and of course Thomas Jefferson. Jimmy Cater at 32? He should be dead last - 43. It is way to early to rate George W. Bush.

[ought-six]

Who writes this stuff? One of the endearing myths of American history is that the Emancipation Proclamation freed the slaves: It freed no one! All one has to do is read the damn thing and with a half ounce of brain matter and an iota of familiarity with American history one will easily conclude (correctly( that the EP did not free anyone and was not intended to free anyone.

[outlawjake]

i may be alone in this... but as iraq makes progress and becomes a thriving country and a great democracy.. i think geoerge w. will be one of our greats..

[Westlander]

Figured it would be a fish wrapper news source from a muzzie country to come up with this list.

[I_Like_Spam]

Harding and Coolidge were both underrated. Although President Harding had his scandals, his administration was still a success in returning the United States to “normalcy” and his low tax policies helped create the boom of the 1920’s.

[Blue State Insurgent]

George W. Bush fought the terrorists and saved the world. The future is brighter because of what he has done.

Best president of our lifetime.

[paudio]

I had a lot of respect for Dubya, not any more. Yes, he kept the US safe and picked two conservative Supreme Court Justices. However, he suffers from a martyr complex. When the Dims blame him for everything wrong under the sun, he seems to take it as accomplishment, and does practically nothing to counter. He seems to be fully convinced that the history will judge him better later. So, he announced that he took the blame on Katrina, even before most people thought it that way.

His no-defense actions cost the Republican and conservative movements. As a defacto leader of the two, he let the MSM and other enemy of the US to define conservatism and Republicanism. This resulted in the possibility of Americans staying away from conservatism and Republicans, and open the way for a possible most leftist candidate in US history.

[SunkenCiv]

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[SunkenCiv]

Washington #2. Got thinking about it, this may be a duplicate topic. But anyway, may be pingworthy.

[mysterio]

Thomas Jefferson.

[SunkenCiv]

No affiliation, Federalist, Democratic-Republican, Democratic, Whig, Republican

1. George Washington (1789-1797)
2. John Adams (1797-1801) F
3. Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) DR
4. James Madison (1809-1817) DR
5. James Monroe (1817-1825) DR
6. John Quincy Adams (1825-1829) DR
7. Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) D
8. Martin Van Buren (1837-1841) D
9. William Henry Harrison (1841) W
10. John Tyler (see note) (1841-1845) W
11. James K. Polk (1845-1849) D
12. Zachary Taylor (1849-1850) W
13. Millard Fillmore (1850-1853) W
14. Franklin Pierce (1853-1857) D
15. James Buchanan (1857-1861) D
16. Abraham Lincoln (1861-1865) R
17. Andrew Johnson (1865-1869) D
18. Ulysses S. Grant (1869-1877) R
19. Rutherford B. Hayes (1877-1881) R
20. James A. Garfield (1881) R
21. Chester A. Arthur (1881-1885) R
22. Grover Cleveland (1885-1889) D
23. Benjamin Harrison (1889-1893) R
24. Grover Cleveland (1893-1897) D
25. William McKinley (1897-1901) R
26. Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909) R
27. William Howard Taft (1909-1913) R
28. Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) D
29. Warren G. Harding (1921-1923) R
30. Calvin Coolidge (1923-1929) R
31. Herbert Hoover (1929-1933) R
32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945) D
33. Harry S. Truman (1945-1953) D
34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-1961) R
35. John F. Kennedy (1961-1963) D
36. Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969) D
37. Richard Nixon (1969-1974) R
38. Gerald Ford (1974-1977) R
39. Jimmy Carter (1977-1981) D
40. Ronald Reagan (1981-1989) R
41. George H. W. Bush (1989-1993) R
42. Bill Clinton (1993-2001) D
43. George W. Bush (2001-present) R

[Palin4President]

Lincoln over Washington is a joke.

The worst is probably Grant or Carter.

[Future Snake Eater]

FDR as #3?! Didn’t have to read any further. This list is crap.

[Verginius Rufus]

Looks like the panel of experts is a bunch of journalists.

JFK and LBJ are ranked much higher than they should be, also Grant, Clinton, Andrew Johnson and Carter. Naturally they put GWB near the bottom. I think a fair rating would have him somewhere in the middle (he had the potential to be in the "near great" group but his lack of communication skills and unwillingness to fight back have hurt his effectiveness). Hoover should be a bit higher, also Van Buren. It's silly to include William Henry Harrison on the list, considering that he died one month after taking the oath of office.

[Non-Sequitur]

Carter got just about everything wrong." Chris Ayres.

Truer words were never spoken.

Reagan well deserves his place in the top 10, though I'm always puzzled that Woodrow Wilson always places so high. Kennedy is overrated, as usual. Clinton's too high and Carter should be a lot closer to the bottom than he is, should be one of the 40's.

[x]

29= William H. Taft
1909-13 (Republican)
Taft’s Presidency was overshadowed by the imposing figure of Theodore Roosevelt. Teddy had anointed his friend as his successor before changing his mind after Taft’s first term and making an acrimonious but failed challenge to his Republican nomination.
The President sits low on our list after managing to alienate all sides of the political spectrum with unpopular anti-trust and tariff legislation during his term in office. His bid for re-election was the least successful ever as he secured just eight electoral votes and finished third behind Woodrow Wilson and Roosevelt, who was standing for the Progressive Party.

Whaddya say, Nicollo? Fair or foul?