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Second student says science teacher burned his arm
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | October 31, 2008 | Dean Narciso

Posted on 10/31/2008 3:45:24 PM PDT by Soliton

A second Mount Vernon student said his 8th grade science teacher burned a cross on his arm with an electrical device, but that he didn't tell his parents or complain about the incident.

And two school teachers, one of whom spent most of last year in Freshwater's class, described being uncomfortable with what he was teaching.

Simon Souhrada, 17, said Freshwater used a high-voltage static electricity device to burn a cross on his arm four years ago. But, he testified, "it never even registered with me as being anything, really."

Simon, now a junior at Mount Vernon High School, said the cross stung a little at first, redness lasted a couple of days and the mark was completely gone after a few weeks. He said he was more concerned about what Freshwater was teaching.

He desribed Freshwater as "a very good teacher," but one dismissive of evolution.

"He would try to do things to discredit evolution," Simon said, "to make it seem like he didn't want to teach it."

(Excerpt) Read more at columbusdispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: creationism; evolution; id
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To: tacticalogic
you should probably stop posting to me

let me know when you're ready

21 posted on 11/01/2008 1:43:27 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
let me know when you're ready

Yesterday.

22 posted on 11/01/2008 1:54:55 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

You have such a strange way of showing it. Because you keep posting to me.


23 posted on 11/01/2008 2:46:05 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

You keep injecting yourself into conversations I’m having with other people.


24 posted on 11/01/2008 2:49:03 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
You keep injecting yourself into conversations I’m having with other people.

WELCOME TO FREE REPUBLIC!

25 posted on 11/01/2008 3:01:31 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

Don’t shout. You’ll make your fingers bleed.


26 posted on 11/01/2008 4:10:19 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
Don’t shout. You’ll make your fingers bleed.

welcome to free republic.

27 posted on 11/01/2008 4:18:05 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
welcome to free republic.

been here way longer than you.

28 posted on 11/01/2008 4:22:07 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

You could be here on day one but siding with supressing the rights of parents to teach as they see fit through means of lawsuits is no conservative position.


29 posted on 11/01/2008 4:58:20 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
You could be here on day one but siding with supressing the rights of parents to teach as they see fit through means of lawsuits is no conservative position.

You can tell your kids they use radio carbon dating to estimate the age of the Earth if you want to. Don't ask me to pay someone to do it for you.

30 posted on 11/01/2008 5:24:31 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
You can tell your kids they use radio carbon dating to estimate the age of the Earth if you want to.

It amazes me that arrogant people think it is somehow an issue for Americans to teach their children as they see fit in the first place.(Carbon dating notwithstanding.)

Don't ask me to pay someone to do it for you.

The true issue here is Americans are beginning to demand a stop to paying for failed PC liberalism in schools. And some people just can't stand to see the establishment fail, or are angry with God or are PC liberals themselves, I really don't care; and they will do anything to stop it.

31 posted on 11/01/2008 5:57:21 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
The true issue here is Americans are beginning to demand a stop to paying for failed PC liberalism in schools.

I don't mind that, as long as we're not replacing it with paying them to tell kids that "Catholics aren't Christians".

32 posted on 11/02/2008 6:15:07 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Absolutely, 100% without a doubt I agree with you on that!


33 posted on 11/02/2008 6:46:17 AM PST by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

But that’s not an issue here?


34 posted on 11/02/2008 6:47:43 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Depends on if it’s the truth. From reading the article I’m not convinced it is.


35 posted on 11/02/2008 7:19:05 AM PST by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
Depends on if it’s the truth. From reading the article I’m not convinced it is.

What does it take to convice you?

36 posted on 11/02/2008 7:40:10 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

More than that article, certainly.


37 posted on 11/02/2008 12:52:39 PM PST by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
More than that article, certainly.

The testimony of another creationist?

38 posted on 11/02/2008 3:48:36 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Perhaps or perhaps the testimony of someone other than a programmed kool-aid drinker.

What would it take for you to see something’s not entirely right about the article?


39 posted on 11/02/2008 4:26:08 PM PST by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
Perhaps or perhaps the testimony of someone other than a programmed kool-aid drinker.

How will you know they're not programmed? Whether they agree with you or not?

What would it take for you to see something’s not entirely right about the article?

I already see the title's not entirely right. No one in the article seems to consider it "branding". How much of the article do you think I should disregard based on that?

40 posted on 11/02/2008 6:07:29 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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