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Second student says science teacher burned his arm
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | October 31, 2008 | Dean Narciso

Posted on 10/31/2008 3:45:24 PM PDT by Soliton

A second Mount Vernon student said his 8th grade science teacher burned a cross on his arm with an electrical device, but that he didn't tell his parents or complain about the incident.

And two school teachers, one of whom spent most of last year in Freshwater's class, described being uncomfortable with what he was teaching.

Simon Souhrada, 17, said Freshwater used a high-voltage static electricity device to burn a cross on his arm four years ago. But, he testified, "it never even registered with me as being anything, really."

Simon, now a junior at Mount Vernon High School, said the cross stung a little at first, redness lasted a couple of days and the mark was completely gone after a few weeks. He said he was more concerned about what Freshwater was teaching.

He desribed Freshwater as "a very good teacher," but one dismissive of evolution.

"He would try to do things to discredit evolution," Simon said, "to make it seem like he didn't want to teach it."

(Excerpt) Read more at columbusdispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: creationism; evolution; id
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Crazy dude will be sued blind.
1 posted on 10/31/2008 3:45:24 PM PDT by Soliton
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To: Soliton

Dude needs to be locked up.


2 posted on 10/31/2008 3:49:04 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Soliton
Simon Souhrada, 17, said Freshwater used a high-voltage static electricity device to burn a cross on his arm four years ago. But, he testified, "it never even registered with me as being anything, really."

It never even registered with him as being anything and never told anyone???

3 posted on 10/31/2008 3:52:06 PM PDT by itsthejourney (1 of every 10 people you pass in the mall is here illegally)
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To: trumandogz
Dude needs to be locked up.

It is the minds he was trying to brand that bothers me more.

4 posted on 10/31/2008 3:52:34 PM PDT by Soliton (Faith is an act of love; Love is an act of faith)
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To: itsthejourney
It never even registered with him as being anything and never told anyone???

There are pictures. He was mentally molested before he was physically molested.

5 posted on 10/31/2008 3:53:59 PM PDT by Soliton (Faith is an act of love; Love is an act of faith)
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To: Soliton

Talk about making a mountain out of mole hill.


6 posted on 10/31/2008 4:15:04 PM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: Comparative Advantage
Talk about making a mountain out of mole hill.

Yes branding a child is a small thing.

7 posted on 10/31/2008 4:59:38 PM PDT by Soliton (Faith is an act of love; Love is an act of faith)
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To: itsthejourney
"It never even registered with him as being anything and never told anyone???"

Yeah, doesn't pass the smell test. If you got branded you think you would remember that.
8 posted on 10/31/2008 5:03:48 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Calling it “branding” may be a little over the top. The business about discussing religion in class and telling his students that “Catholics aren’t Christians” seems out of line.


9 posted on 10/31/2008 5:08:13 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

I agree with you there. Way out of line.


10 posted on 10/31/2008 5:12:05 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Soliton
You make it sound as if the Teacher was using a red hot iron on the students ass.

I suppose that's how any public expression of Christianity feels to you eh Sol?

11 posted on 10/31/2008 5:17:46 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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Using a high-voltage device to mark a student’s arm may be an expression of something, but I don’t think I’d call it “Christianity.”


12 posted on 10/31/2008 9:07:49 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: itsthejourney

Injuries resulting from a static electricity thing might not seem so earth-shattering to a student at the time... heck, I remember the boys (ie, everyone except me) in my AP physics class touching each other’s arms with hot light bulbs, or feeling the edge of a razor blade to ‘see how sharp it is’, or getting other minor injuries as the result of stupidity pretty much every single time we had a lab. So, maybe the student thought it wasn’t supposed to leave a mark, so it was accidental, or something like that?

I don’t know for sure what the kid was thinking, but when you’re 13 the world seems like a much more benevolent place.


13 posted on 11/01/2008 7:23:35 AM PDT by Hyzenthlay (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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There are pictures. He was mentally molested before he was physically molested.

LOL....riiiiiight, and it was just some 4 years later that he really knew this.

14 posted on 11/01/2008 7:42:47 AM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: itsthejourney
It never even registered with him as being anything and never told anyone???

Notice the issue isn't being branded, it's all this horrible "dude is a Christian" that's the issue.

Like I said his mistake was not using circles instead of an x, that way if a full circle wasn't made and it looked like a crescent, no big deal!

15 posted on 11/01/2008 7:43:26 AM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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Like I said his mistake was not using circles instead of an x, that way if a full circle wasn't made and it looked like a crescent, no big deal!

Telling his students that "Catholics aren't Christians" wasn't a mistake? That's "teaching science"?

16 posted on 11/01/2008 8:04:18 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Telling his students that “Catholics aren’t Christians” wasn’t a mistake? That’s “teaching science”?


I don’t know what he said, if he said that, it’s incorrect, but how do you know that’s what he said? Based on what some kids said that didn’t think about their “branded arms” for 4 years?

Push away from the kool-aid!


17 posted on 11/01/2008 8:43:20 AM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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I don’t know what he said, if he said that, it’s incorrect, but how do you know that’s what he said?

I know what it says in the article. It's possible the article is in error. It's possible it's a complete fabrication. It's possible everything you've ever read about anything was fiction.

18 posted on 11/01/2008 8:47:44 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

it’s quite possible you’re a figment of my imagination!


19 posted on 11/01/2008 9:00:31 AM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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it’s quite possible you’re a figment of my imagination!

If that's the case, you should probably stop posting to me.

Given the number of other things that seem to be, you might want to consider that possiblity.

20 posted on 11/01/2008 9:22:31 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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