Posted on 10/17/2008 7:59:18 AM PDT by Soliton
Three antievolutionists have been appointed to a six-member committee to review the draft set of Texas state science standards, and defenders of the integrity of science education in the Lone Star state are livid. "The committee was chosen by 12 of the 15 members of the board of education, with each panel member receiving the support of two board members," as the Dallas Morning News (October 16, 2008) explains. Six members of the board "aligned with social conservative groups" chose Stephen C. Meyer, the director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, Ralph Seelke, a biology professor at the University of Wiconsin, Superior, and Charles Garner, a chemistry professor at Baylor University.
Meyer, Seelke, and Garner are all signatories of the Discovery Institute-sponsored "Dissent from Darwinism" statement. Meyer and Seelke are also coauthors of Explore Evolution: The Arguments For and Against Neo-Darwinism (Hill House, 2008), which, like Of Pandas and People, is a supplementary textbook that is intended to instill scientifically unwarranted doubts about evolution. A recent review by biologist John Timmer summarized, "But the book doesn't only promote stupidity, it demands it. In every way except its use of the actual term, this is a creationist book." Garner reportedly told the Houston Press (December 14, 2000) that he "criticizes evolutionary theory in class."
Meyer and Seelke also testified in the 2005 "kangaroo court" hearings held by three antievolutionist members of the Kansas state board of education, in which a parade of antievolutionist witnesses expressed their support for the so-called minority report version of the state science standards (written with the aid of a local "intelligent design" organization), complained of repression by a dogmatic evolutionary establishment, and claimed to have detected atheism lurking "between the lines" of the standards..
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Did I EVER say I wasn’t?
An examination of Adam would prove to the examiner that the man was 20ish years old. People say "If got gives the impression that something is older than it is God is a liar". I hate it when they say that. God said "I just created him from nothing" which is truth.
Let's see if there are verses that might shed light on how fast GOD works.....
Isa 48:3 ... I have declared the former things from the beginning; and they went forth out of My mouth, and I shewed them; I did [them] SUDDENLY, and they came to pass.
Indeed!!
Genesis 1
1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3. And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
This is a GOD who creates by speaking; but; how LONG did it take?
Now Jesus was a man who had God-like powers. Was HE God? The Book says so.......
NIV Colossians 1:13-17
13. For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves,
14. in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
15. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
16. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
17. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
NIV Revelation 4:11
"You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being."
NIV Revelation 10:6
And he swore by him who lives for ever and ever, who created the heavens and all that is in them, the earth and all that is in it, and the sea and all that is in it, and said, "There will be no more delay!
Notice that when this man speaks, things happen RIGHT NOW! Not after some times passes and Nature takes it's course.
NIV Matthew 8:2-3
2. A man with leprosy came and knelt before him and said, "Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean."
3. Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing," he said. "Be clean!" Immediately he was cured of his leprosy.
NIV Matthew 21:19
Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, "May you never bear fruit again!" Immediately the tree withered.
NIV Mark 1:41-42
41. Filled with compassion, Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing," he said. "Be clean!"
42. Immediately the leprosy left him and he was cured.
NIV Mark 5:41-42
41. He took her by the hand and said to her, "Talitha koum!" (which means, "Little girl, I say to you, get up!").
42. Immediately the girl stood up and walked around (she was twelve years old). At this they were completely astonished.
NIV Mark 10:51-52
51. "What do you want me to do for you?" Jesus asked him. The blind man said, "Rabbi, I want to see."
52. "Go," said Jesus, "your faith has healed you." Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus along the road.
NIV Luke 5:13
Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing," he said. "Be clean!" And Immediately the leprosy left him.
NIV Luke 5:24-25
24. But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins. . . ." He said to the paralyzed man, "I tell you, get up, take your mat and go home."
25. Immediately he stood up in front of them, took what he had been lying on and went home praising God.
NIV Luke 8:44
She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak, and Immediately her bleeding stopped.
NIV Luke 13:12-13
12. When Jesus saw her, he called her forward and said to her, "Woman, you are set free from your infirmity."
13. Then he put his hands on her, and Immediately she straightened up and praised God.
NIV Luke 18:42-43
42. Jesus said to him, "Receive your sight; your faith has healed you."
43. Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus, praising God. When all the people saw it, they also praised God.
NIV Acts 9:33-35
33. There he found a man named Aeneas, a paralytic who had been bedridden for eight years.
34. "Aeneas," Peter said to him, "Jesus Christ heals you. Get up and take care of your mat." Immediately Aeneas got up.
35. All those who lived in Lydda and Sharon saw him and turned to the Lord.
NIV Matthew 8:13
Then Jesus said to the centurion, "Go! It will be done just as you believed it would." And his servant was healed at that very hour.
NIV Matthew 15:28
Then Jesus answered, "Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted." And her daughter was healed from that very hour.
Now if this same personage, who does things in an instant; how LONG would it take Him to CREATE all that we find around us???
==The repetition is getting tedious
What repetition? I just joined this thread. I think the more appropriate word would be frustration. You are frustrated to learn that your Temple of Darwin co-religionists do not believe that nothing is faster than light.
==we are talking about light in a vacuum in the absence of a large gravitational field.
So now you agree with me, light travels at different speeds depending on the medium it is traveling through. So far its maximum speed is represented by “c”.
==So what exactly is it with E = MC2 that you disagree with?
I don’t ever recall disagreeing with E=MC2. Do you just make stuff up as you go?
==The astrophysicists certainly aren’t disagreeing with it and they aren’t claiming that information can be transmitted faster than light speed.
What does that have to do with anything? You said there is nothing faster than light, and then I pointed out that your astrophysicist co-religionists say that the universe itself is expanding faster than the speed of light. Don’t get mad at me just because you don’t understand your own religion.
==Are you claiming that information can be transmitted faster than light?
Physical information? Probably not. But who knows, some new discovery may come along that demonstrates that it is possible for information to travel as fast as your materialist brethren say our universe is expanding.
I think on that we can agree : )
My brother had one made up:
algore is just gonna spend your carbon credits on his jet fuel, DUmmy!
My brother had one made up:
algore is just gonna spend your carbon credits on his jet fuel, DUmmy!
Physical information? Probably not.
Then you are in agreement with me : ) If you come to the discussion late at least try to familiarize yourself with what is being said.
No, I know they were better. Sure there were problems but the disease of liberalism didn't dumb kids down, hyper- politically correct with their separation of church and state lunacy, and we had Jewish, hispanic even atheist children back then of course!And everyone got along fine for the most part, were focused on the basics, NOT socialization! It's really not that hard to undeerstand!
It's got ZERO to do with religion in schools, but EVERYTHING to do with godless liberalism destroying virtually everything it comes into contact with in schools.
Liberalism is a PROFOUND mental disorder!
Bill Maher, Rosie O'Donnell and William Ayers see radical Islam and Fundamental Christianity as the exact same thing.
No, but it is called dissembling in my book. That's okay because I do it all the time too : ) If people want to believe a lie that is fine with me, because then I can tweak them later : ) Bearding the Lion.
There was no need to familiarize myself with what was said because I was addressing a categorical statement MADE BY YOU—namely, that there is nothing faster than the speed of light. I merely pointed out that your materialist co-religionists in astrophysics disagree with you. They say that the universe is expanding faster than the speed of light. So do you still maintain that there is nothing faster than the speed of light, or do you agree with your Temple of Darwin brethren that the universe is expanding faster than the speed of light???
All these false assumptions and so little time. Are you claiming that information can be sent faster than the speed of light?
Nothing physical is faster than the speed of light. Fields aren't physical and two separate fields may appear to be separating faster than the speed of light relatively speaking.
No information can be sent faster than the speed of light.
You seem to be very interested in "information". God created matter across a 30 billion lightyear span in less than 24 hours. You're comparing the sending of smoke signals to the creation of the planet.
The entire of information transfer depends upon particle exchanges in the standard model, and the fastest measured particle/wave is photon, so it fits the standard model which depends upon particle exchanges for information transfer, so information transfer in the standard model cannot exceed light speed. Lisa Randall's recent book sets that antiquated limitation aside, in thoery. Brane theory opens doors to blow the limits out of the park.
Then why did it trap itself on the other side of the event horizon or us on this side? Where communication with it is impossible?
So you are admitting that there is a non-physical reality beyond the physical universe?
No, I am saying that fields which are part of our universe are massless.
==Fields aren’t physical and two separate fields may appear to be separating faster than the speed of light relatively speaking.
Please explain what you mean.
No, they were demonstrably better. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge those facts has no business passing themselves off as an objective scientist who is capable of being unbiased in any scientific endeavor.
And it's not that Christianity was *taught* in the schools. It was practiced freely as the Constitution allows.
God had not been kicked out then as He has been now through the corrupt God-hating, liberal judicial system backed by God hating, corrupt liberals.
The public schools and this country were in far better condition in all aspects when Christianity was widely recognized and allowed to be freely practiced in all arenas, public schools included.
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