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Antievolutionists asked to review draft standards in Texas
The National Center for Science Education ^ | October 16, 2008

Posted on 10/17/2008 7:59:18 AM PDT by Soliton

Three antievolutionists have been appointed to a six-member committee to review the draft set of Texas state science standards, and defenders of the integrity of science education in the Lone Star state are livid. "The committee was chosen by 12 of the 15 members of the board of education, with each panel member receiving the support of two board members," as the Dallas Morning News (October 16, 2008) explains. Six members of the board "aligned with social conservative groups" chose Stephen C. Meyer, the director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, Ralph Seelke, a biology professor at the University of Wiconsin, Superior, and Charles Garner, a chemistry professor at Baylor University.

Meyer, Seelke, and Garner are all signatories of the Discovery Institute-sponsored "Dissent from Darwinism" statement. Meyer and Seelke are also coauthors of Explore Evolution: The Arguments For and Against Neo-Darwinism (Hill House, 2008), which, like Of Pandas and People, is a supplementary textbook that is intended to instill scientifically unwarranted doubts about evolution. A recent review by biologist John Timmer summarized, "But the book doesn't only promote stupidity, it demands it. In every way except its use of the actual term, this is a creationist book." Garner reportedly told the Houston Press (December 14, 2000) that he "criticizes evolutionary theory in class."

Meyer and Seelke also testified in the 2005 "kangaroo court" hearings held by three antievolutionist members of the Kansas state board of education, in which a parade of antievolutionist witnesses expressed their support for the so-called minority report version of the state science standards (written with the aid of a local "intelligent design" organization), complained of repression by a dogmatic evolutionary establishment, and claimed to have detected atheism lurking "between the lines" of the standards..

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TOPICS: Education; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: creationism; evolution; id; scientism
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To: tpanther
Huh? So far science only allows man's small mind even the recognition of the speed of light, it wasn't that long ago, man didn't have electric lights, telephones, much less cell phones.

Yes, it is amazing what science has accomplished. Can you name any accomplishments based on the Bible?

661 posted on 10/20/2008 2:12:09 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: Mojave

Run away. LOL!


662 posted on 10/20/2008 2:13:05 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)
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To: Mojave
“I wonder what the speed of sound disproves?”
I don't know about the speed, but sound often disproves intelligence...

663 posted on 10/20/2008 2:13:21 PM PDT by Fichori (ironic: adj. 1 Characterized by or constituting irony. 2 Obamy getting beat up by a girl.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
The truth is that worshipping God sets you free. Sin might bring short term pleasure, but it also brings longterm misery even while you live. Take it from a sinner. I have womanized. It made me miserable. I have committed other sins. They made me miserable and screwed my life up.

Obviously you have never heard of projection. Go wallow in your grief. Don't try to project your screw ups onto me.

664 posted on 10/20/2008 2:15:06 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: tpanther
The speed of light proves that an omnipotent God can't exist.

And here ladies and gentlemen, we have evidence of failed godless liberal NEA public schools, solid irrefutable evidence.

All you have to do is send a little bit of information faster than the speed of light and you would be correct. If you can't pull that little demonstration off then you would be wrong. Can you transmit information faster than the speed of light?

665 posted on 10/20/2008 2:19:16 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande

I’m not wallowing. And we are all children of sin. So call it whatever you want. Too bad you’re blinded.


666 posted on 10/20/2008 2:22:06 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Han Solo -- "It just wont matter? Turn that droid off. Never tell me the odds!")
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To: LeGrande

You ducked my question, BTW — what’s the speed of spiritual light?


667 posted on 10/20/2008 2:23:07 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Han Solo -- "It just wont matter? Turn that droid off. Never tell me the odds!")
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To: LeGrande
do you believe in a God who concerns himself with the actions of human beings?

My personal unstated beliefs aren't relevant to your assertion.

Again, how does light speed prove that God is only manifest in the material but that he doesn't concern himself with the actions of human beings?

668 posted on 10/20/2008 2:26:34 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: tpanther; LeGrande

Something tells me that LeGrande has a problem telling us what the speed of spiritual light is.


669 posted on 10/20/2008 2:27:30 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Han Solo -- "It just wont matter? Turn that droid off. Never tell me the odds!")
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Run away.

Don't trip over any of your self-contradictions on the way.

670 posted on 10/20/2008 2:32:03 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: LeGrande
All you have to do is send a little bit of information faster than the speed of light and you would be correct.

Like gravity?

671 posted on 10/20/2008 2:33:57 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
If you ever stop running long enough to answer the question.....

Is Creationism science?

You be sure to ping me. LOL!

672 posted on 10/20/2008 2:34:13 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)
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To: Fichori
I don't know about the speed, but sound often disproves intelligence...

*rimshot*

673 posted on 10/20/2008 2:35:12 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Is Creationism science?

Your assertions about evolution are unscientific.

674 posted on 10/20/2008 2:36:17 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
Like gravity?

Wrong. Go ahead and guess again. Or maybe you might learn something if you read the articles you cut and pasted from.

675 posted on 10/20/2008 3:03:44 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Something tells me that LeGrande has a problem telling us what the speed of spiritual light is.

Now you want me to measure a figment of you imagination? LOL

676 posted on 10/20/2008 3:05:56 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: Mojave
My personal unstated beliefs aren't relevant to your assertion.

They are when you try and claim Einstein believes in the same god you do.

I guess I should ask if you believe in an omnipotent god? If you don't then my line of reasoning wouldn't apply to your imagined god.

677 posted on 10/20/2008 3:10:56 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I’m not wallowing. And we are all children of sin.

I am not a child of sin. I am responsible for my own life and happiness : ) I am not responsible for what someone did thousands of years ago. If you want to believe that, go ahead, you can do it without me.

678 posted on 10/20/2008 3:14:51 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: Theo
You spend so much time trying to discount the Creator, Soliton. Some day you’ll meet Him; may you have stopped your crusade against Him before doing so.

If the Creator exists, He created me as I am. Who are you to question his grand design?

679 posted on 10/20/2008 3:15:05 PM PDT by Soliton (Faith is an act of love; Love is an act of faith)
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To: LeGrande
Yes, it is amazing what science has accomplished. Can you name any accomplishments based on the Bible?

Sure, securing a favorable place for one's eternal soul.

680 posted on 10/20/2008 3:21:46 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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