Posted on 10/17/2008 7:59:18 AM PDT by Soliton
Three antievolutionists have been appointed to a six-member committee to review the draft set of Texas state science standards, and defenders of the integrity of science education in the Lone Star state are livid. "The committee was chosen by 12 of the 15 members of the board of education, with each panel member receiving the support of two board members," as the Dallas Morning News (October 16, 2008) explains. Six members of the board "aligned with social conservative groups" chose Stephen C. Meyer, the director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, Ralph Seelke, a biology professor at the University of Wiconsin, Superior, and Charles Garner, a chemistry professor at Baylor University.
Meyer, Seelke, and Garner are all signatories of the Discovery Institute-sponsored "Dissent from Darwinism" statement. Meyer and Seelke are also coauthors of Explore Evolution: The Arguments For and Against Neo-Darwinism (Hill House, 2008), which, like Of Pandas and People, is a supplementary textbook that is intended to instill scientifically unwarranted doubts about evolution. A recent review by biologist John Timmer summarized, "But the book doesn't only promote stupidity, it demands it. In every way except its use of the actual term, this is a creationist book." Garner reportedly told the Houston Press (December 14, 2000) that he "criticizes evolutionary theory in class."
Meyer and Seelke also testified in the 2005 "kangaroo court" hearings held by three antievolutionist members of the Kansas state board of education, in which a parade of antievolutionist witnesses expressed their support for the so-called minority report version of the state science standards (written with the aid of a local "intelligent design" organization), complained of repression by a dogmatic evolutionary establishment, and claimed to have detected atheism lurking "between the lines" of the standards..
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One day, I actually tried eating something that for YEARS I just KNEw I didn't like.
Oh.. Kay...
What has TAXES to do with SS?
If it's SCIENCE, then the rules would apply to all; I would think.
Evolution is religion, therefore, everyone around here is religious.
FR's 'spellcheck' is a bit lame, I've found.
Perhaps he meant a metaphorical door: by coming INTO his neighborhood.
SURELY Obama didn't drive down the street in a sound truck, announcing his presence among the commoners.
Do you consider the Theory of Relativity or the speed of light to be religious concepts?
SS is a tax. Or do you think that it is just a suggestion? LOL
“”There is a deep seated fundamental conflict between Quantum theory and Einstein’s theory of relativity. Subtle difficulties become insurmountable problems when gravity is added.” —Paul Renteln, “Quantum Gravity”, American Scientist, 79, 508-527 (1991).
No.
No one uses the speed of light to define their origin or afterlife or ethics or world view though.
Obviously from the experiment there was a mutation or series of mutations in generation 20,000 that enabled the bacteria to utilize citrate in generation 31,500 after another series of mutations.
The scope of the mutations that enabled an entire metabolic pathway to be utilized is being discovered as we speak by Dr. Lenski. But it was most assuredly not a single mutation.
The human mutation rate is quite sufficient to explain the 2% genetic difference and 6% genomic difference we observe between humans and chimps over an estimated six million years.
Neutral mutations have no problem persisting and accumulating within a population. Obviously you don't know much about Kimura’s theory of neutral mutation and the phylogenetic data of common species.
If your complaint is that this experiment took to long to develop a new trait, then one must ignore the many thousands of experiments on natural selection where beneficial mutations can be derived much quicker. But those actually ARE simple mutations (making the protein more heat stable in the face of high heat as a selective pressure for example); not utilization of a new metabolic pathway.
Do you understand the difference?
How many times unsuccessfully?
Most people who accept the theory of evolution don't use it to define any of those things either.
Ummmm, I saw the video and several stations showed him knocking at the door of a house in his neighborhood, it didn't have to be Joe's house to understand he was knocking on doors in Joe's neighborhood, seeking Joe and his neighbors out. Joe was throwing the football, so he wouldn't have any way of knowing if bambi was knocking on doors BEFORE he was aware of bambi's presence on HIS turf. Sheesh even a 5 year old could understand this.
Thanks for confirming bambi sought these people out in their own neighborhood. WE knew that from the very beginning however.
And I agree with Joe, ANY candidate should be made to answer something other than the usual drive-by media's softball questions. In ANY environment.
I find it disturbing when people cast you as a liberal or conservative not by what views you hold but by what lies you're willing to go along with.
As usual you're completely wrong, but MORE disturbing is taking up for bambi and bashing the average American exploiting bambi's fascade, and accusing someone of lying on bambi's behalf and pretending you're conservative.
So the speed of light IS used to try to define the time scale of the existence of the universe, and the preposterous ideas put forth by Creationists to explain away the clear and compelling data are the source of much amusement.
Empirical verification for thee, but not for me. They’ve demonstrated their hypocrisy dozens (hundreds?) of times in this thread alone.
Yup...along with their endless projections, strawmen and hysteria. Like fire ants protecting a cult.
You think that unsuccessful attempts to reproduce the results support the experiment? You are desperate.
No. I'm just trying to find out how many unsuccessful attempts are needed before you say it is irreproducible.
How many?
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