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Antievolutionists asked to review draft standards in Texas
The National Center for Science Education ^ | October 16, 2008

Posted on 10/17/2008 7:59:18 AM PDT by Soliton

Three antievolutionists have been appointed to a six-member committee to review the draft set of Texas state science standards, and defenders of the integrity of science education in the Lone Star state are livid. "The committee was chosen by 12 of the 15 members of the board of education, with each panel member receiving the support of two board members," as the Dallas Morning News (October 16, 2008) explains. Six members of the board "aligned with social conservative groups" chose Stephen C. Meyer, the director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, Ralph Seelke, a biology professor at the University of Wiconsin, Superior, and Charles Garner, a chemistry professor at Baylor University.

Meyer, Seelke, and Garner are all signatories of the Discovery Institute-sponsored "Dissent from Darwinism" statement. Meyer and Seelke are also coauthors of Explore Evolution: The Arguments For and Against Neo-Darwinism (Hill House, 2008), which, like Of Pandas and People, is a supplementary textbook that is intended to instill scientifically unwarranted doubts about evolution. A recent review by biologist John Timmer summarized, "But the book doesn't only promote stupidity, it demands it. In every way except its use of the actual term, this is a creationist book." Garner reportedly told the Houston Press (December 14, 2000) that he "criticizes evolutionary theory in class."

Meyer and Seelke also testified in the 2005 "kangaroo court" hearings held by three antievolutionist members of the Kansas state board of education, in which a parade of antievolutionist witnesses expressed their support for the so-called minority report version of the state science standards (written with the aid of a local "intelligent design" organization), complained of repression by a dogmatic evolutionary establishment, and claimed to have detected atheism lurking "between the lines" of the standards..

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TOPICS: Education; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: creationism; evolution; id; scientism
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To: tpanther
So which is it? Your original question to metmom or your excuse for them here?

I don't quite understand the question, but if it's multiple choice, which on will be "projection", and which one will get misquoted and followed by "WHO KNEW?"? Or will it be both of one or the other?

421 posted on 10/19/2008 3:44:37 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; tpanther; Fichori; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Joe the Plumber isn't a licensed plumber, the creationists on the board aren't scientists.

Evos on this board aren't scientists either. At least the ones honest enough to answer when asked.

422 posted on 10/19/2008 3:46:29 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I have a BA in Meteorology. Beats a high school history teacher as well.


423 posted on 10/19/2008 3:48:02 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Oztrich Boy; Mojave
No they are trying to slot her into the ignorant, tongue speaking, 6 day Creationist, Dominionist position. Because that's the only kind of conservative Christian they can imagine.

Kind of like all the evos on this board.

I guess that means that the evos would fit right in with the the rest of the compost staff.

424 posted on 10/19/2008 3:51:51 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

That they’re defending Obama and the Global Warming religion is revealing.


425 posted on 10/19/2008 4:11:39 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Elsie
Then I am qualified to be President.

Despite our disagreements I think you would make a better President than our current two choices.

426 posted on 10/19/2008 4:15:16 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: Mojave

This has already posted. And the fact that is has been replicated has already been pointed out to you by another poster.

Your repeated and continued failure to address the data is noted.

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/life/dn14094-bacteria-make-major-evolutionary-shift-in-the-lab.html

Lenski turned to his freezer, where he had saved samples of each population every 500 generations. These allowed him to replay history from any starting point he chose, by reviving the bacteria and letting evolution “replay” again.

The replays showed that even when he looked at trillions of cells, only the original population re-evolved Cit+ – and only when he started the replay from generation 20,000 or greater. Something, he concluded, must have happened around generation 20,000 that laid the groundwork for Cit+ to later evolve.


427 posted on 10/19/2008 5:00:01 PM PDT by allmendream (White Dog Democrat: A Democrat who will not vote for 0bama because he's black.)
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To: Mojave
Interesting to see who the Obama defenders are on this thread,

Eventually liberals trip themselves up.

428 posted on 10/19/2008 5:01:44 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: metmom
I am a scientist both by training and profession.

Like the majority of scientists I am convinced by the evidence of evolution, and a person of deep faith in God.

Most Christian denominations also know that there is no conflict between confidence in the scientific method and faith in God.

429 posted on 10/19/2008 5:04:39 PM PDT by allmendream (White Dog Democrat: A Democrat who will not vote for 0bama because he's black.)
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To: tacticalogic
I don't quite understand the question, but if it's multiple choice, which on will be "projection", and which one will get misquoted and followed by "WHO KNEW?"? Or will it be both of one or the other?

#402, You asked a question, I gave you the answer you've been demanding.

430 posted on 10/19/2008 5:11:59 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

Oh. Come. On. You've been on these threads long enough to have read a dozen answers circular arguments that never answer a thing.

There, fixed.

I'm still waiting to see the slightest criticism by a non-creationist scientist of the cult of evolution.

431 posted on 10/19/2008 5:12:34 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: LeGrande

You don’t understand about withholding tax. The Medicare and Social Security are matched by the employer or paid in full by self-employed people - at double the rate that comes out of the wages of those employed by others.

I gave you a link and you evidently didn’t bother to learn. No wonder you claim “churches” advance “their political agenda.”


432 posted on 10/19/2008 5:14:24 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: tpanther

Are you and metmom the same person, posting under 2 different screen names?


433 posted on 10/19/2008 5:15:42 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: allmendream

Like the majority of scientists I am convinced by the evidence of evolution, and a person of deep faith in God.

So you think evolution is a tool God uses?

434 posted on 10/19/2008 5:16:27 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
How utterly typical of liberals, the issue isn't Joe the Plumber's integrity, it's bambi's.

It wasn't JOE that spouted the Marxist ideology about Wealth Redistributation!

QUICK!

Look over THERE!

435 posted on 10/19/2008 5:17:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tpanther
By now Joe the Plumber is probably wishing hadn't gotten all the limelight, and creationists on school boards tend to avoid publicity, too, preferring to screw up educational standards when people aren't watching.

Yup!

It's them damned CREVOS on school boards that have brought such low standards all around.

Kristallnacht #2 can't be far away!

436 posted on 10/19/2008 5:19:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: allmendream
I don't believe the majority of Scientists are crippled by any ideology.

Then send me someone who KNOWS one way or the other.

437 posted on 10/19/2008 5:20:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tpanther
Joe’s not running for office.

Yet... ;^)

438 posted on 10/19/2008 5:21:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tpanther
Joe’s not running for office.

In this country if an elected person dies, it is real possible their SPOUSE will be voted in next time!

Talk about "Qualification by Osmosis"!

Just like Hillary has all that experience!

439 posted on 10/19/2008 5:22:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tpanther
I believe that in this universe that God called into being, Evolution is the inevitable consequence of the imperfect replication of life that God commanded the oceans and the earth to form.
440 posted on 10/19/2008 5:23:49 PM PDT by allmendream (White Dog Democrat: A Democrat who will not vote for 0bama because he's black.)
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