Posted on 10/17/2008 7:59:18 AM PDT by Soliton
Three antievolutionists have been appointed to a six-member committee to review the draft set of Texas state science standards, and defenders of the integrity of science education in the Lone Star state are livid. "The committee was chosen by 12 of the 15 members of the board of education, with each panel member receiving the support of two board members," as the Dallas Morning News (October 16, 2008) explains. Six members of the board "aligned with social conservative groups" chose Stephen C. Meyer, the director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, Ralph Seelke, a biology professor at the University of Wiconsin, Superior, and Charles Garner, a chemistry professor at Baylor University.
Meyer, Seelke, and Garner are all signatories of the Discovery Institute-sponsored "Dissent from Darwinism" statement. Meyer and Seelke are also coauthors of Explore Evolution: The Arguments For and Against Neo-Darwinism (Hill House, 2008), which, like Of Pandas and People, is a supplementary textbook that is intended to instill scientifically unwarranted doubts about evolution. A recent review by biologist John Timmer summarized, "But the book doesn't only promote stupidity, it demands it. In every way except its use of the actual term, this is a creationist book." Garner reportedly told the Houston Press (December 14, 2000) that he "criticizes evolutionary theory in class."
Meyer and Seelke also testified in the 2005 "kangaroo court" hearings held by three antievolutionist members of the Kansas state board of education, in which a parade of antievolutionist witnesses expressed their support for the so-called minority report version of the state science standards (written with the aid of a local "intelligent design" organization), complained of repression by a dogmatic evolutionary establishment, and claimed to have detected atheism lurking "between the lines" of the standards..
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Nope, this is called decent hard-working Americans being fed up with godless liberals thinking they and they alone somehow have all the answers to origins.
We’re sick and tired of unobjective godless NEA liberals wrecking education (and everything else including journalism, politics, history, law, etc. etc. etc.
You had your chance and you failed miserably.
Get used to it!
God will not “show his hand”. To provide proof of HIS existence would be to deny faith. Those who look to pervert Science to “prove” the Genesis account show they are severely lacking in both faith and confidence in Science. Shoddy theology and apologetics rather than Science.
I am doing very well, and you?
1. Tax exempt status - OK by me - of course the government will have to start shouldering the charitable work and charge you for it...
I think that would be a fair trade. I am already paying for ACORN how much worse can it get?
2. False? You can prove that?
Of course. I think I can falsify any belief you are prepared to defend. Prophecy? Historical and Scientific accuracy of the Bible? Faith? Prayer? Morality? Take your pick : )
And as your argument collapses you turn to tirades against people who aren't even involved in the discussion?
We’re sick and tired of unobjective godless NEA liberals wrecking education (and everything else including journalism, politics, history, law, etc. etc. etc.
You had your chance and you failed miserably.
Get used to it!
You omitted the rest of your rant. I'll add it for you:
And when the theocracy comes you'll be sorry!
Schools teach evolution as fact, when in actuality it is a theory; one with many gaping holes that raise more questions than answers. Secular humanism is a religion just as much as Christianity is and anit-ID/Creation people have just as much “faith”, even more in many cases, in what they believe than the religious people you deride.
“Three antievolutionists have been appointed to a six-member committee...”
Um...so what’s the problem?
Three antievolutionists plus three anticreationists is unfair?
So the the creation worshipers feel the need to stack the deck on the comittee in order to feel it is fair to their views?
What a joke!
Shows how little confidence they have about their theories in the open arenas of opnion, free speech and thought.
Like any leftist, they are compelled to silence the opposition in order to validate their theories.
River.
Cry me one.
Um...so what’s the problem?
Three antievolutionists plus three anticreationists is unfair?
They are dealing with science standards.
Appointing anti-science creationists to that board is the equivalent of your church appointing an equal number of devil worshipers to the advisory board.
So far, all they've done is get an opportunity to review the material. Let's wait for the results before we start making accusations.
If they disagree with the theories, we should give them the opportunity to present alternate theories and produce the evidence and research to support them for peer review, so they can demonstate that they aren't just trying to push religious indoctrination as science.
First, "anticreationists" is a partial misnomer. If they are associated with the Discovery Institute, they are dishonest creationists in disguise. Second, the Supreme Court has ruled that teaching creationism in school violates the Constitution.
Um...so what’s the problem?
Three antievolutionists plus three anticreationists is unfair?
It would have been fair if half the 9/11 commission were "9/11 Truthers"
Then why do they call it the Theory of Evolution? Or Evolutionary Theory? Nothing in science is taught as fact.
Secular humanism is a religion just as much as Christianity is and anit-ID/Creation people have just as much “faith”, even more in many cases, in what they believe than the religious people you deride.
You are confused. No one is anti ID, anymore than they are anti the Hopi's belief in the underworld. If the ID'ers can make a convincing case, then we will accept it as a working hypothesis. The same goes for the Hopi beliefs : )
I agree.
I'm not deriding Christians; I am resisting some Christians' attempts to knowingly, and dishonestly, try to violate the Constitution of the United States
And when the theocracy comes you’ll be sorry!
I’m glad you brought that up...because as you have been shown on COUNTLESS threads now, we didn’t have a THEOCRACY, PRE-NEA godless liberal failed schools, when schools weren’t hostile to Chrtistianity. That’s just silly to keep screaming like chicken little.
Quite the contrary, in fact, freedom flourished for all, which ironically gave rise to the despicable god-haters who now have to rush screaming INQUISITION INQUISITION to the courthouse everytime a Christrian dares speak their opinion on school grounds.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, you had your shot.
Just think evolution, ‘survival of the fittest’ or some such thing, and I promise you you won’t be burned at the stake if scientists freely ask honest questions about people not REALLY being just another mere great ape!
That does not make your desire to insert creationism into the science curriculum any more acceptable to those of us who would rather it be left in theology classes.
On the other hand, IIARC, you are a high school history teacher, with no background in science.
Your recollection is incorrect. I am not a school teacher on any sort. Nor are you. So why not leave teaching science to the science teachers and not force your theology on them?
And as your argument collapses you turn to tirades against people who aren’t even involved in the discussion?
LOL....project much?
Put your money where your mouth is and advocate to stop suing scientists into silence when they disagree with the NEA, godless activist professors running their failed govt schools!
Let the scientists debate origins!
What’s wrong with scientists debating science? WHO gave the NEA, ACLU and atheists and the keys to define science?
http://www.dissentfromdarwin.org
From the beginning of our country to now,
the education system and the country has steadily gotten more secular.
So, at what point during our country’s history were we this dreaded theocracy that we’d be going to if we put religion back into education at a level equal to some point in that history?
bzzzzt
wrong answer.
My church isn't a government mandated attendance and brainwashing facility for leftist propaganda, like the skrewls are.
not equivalent at all.
please try again.
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