But creationist IDers say that the second law of thermodynamics makes natural evolution impossible!
1 posted on
08/11/2008 11:22:05 AM PDT by
Soliton
To: Soliton
But creationist IDers say that the second law of thermodynamics makes natural evolution impossible! I think most creationists have abandoned that line of argument.
2 posted on
08/11/2008 11:25:37 AM PDT by
jalisco555
("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
To: Soliton
Evolution is based upon the theory that death and mutation has ultimately resulted in the creation of man.
No thanks...
I’ll take Jesus my Lord, God and Savior over death and mutation 10,000 times in a row.
3 posted on
08/11/2008 11:26:36 AM PDT by
shineon
To: Soliton
I put creme in my coffee this morning, and it changed colors...must be evolution....
Making your point is one thing; but you are borderline obsessed with this stuff.....seriously.....
9 posted on
08/11/2008 11:31:50 AM PDT by
scottdeus12
(Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
To: Soliton
But creationist IDers say that the second law of thermodynamics makes natural evolution impossible! If the young earthers ignore the part about 'closed system', ignoring that initial energy transfer comes from the sun.
10 posted on
08/11/2008 11:32:33 AM PDT by
mnehring
To: Soliton
I was under the impression that the second law of thermodynamics also spoke of a movement from order to chaos. From useful/organized energy to useless/random energy. Is that not an aspect of this theory?
11 posted on
08/11/2008 11:37:42 AM PDT by
Theo
(Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
To: Soliton
;-)
To: Soliton
I buy that faster cheetahs beget faster cheetahs. But the logical conclusion would also be that wildebeests and antelope type species develop claws and fangs to fend off their attackers.
It has to work both ways - right?
16 posted on
08/11/2008 11:45:10 AM PDT by
jonno
(Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
To: Soliton
How’s the fundraiser going?
28 posted on
08/11/2008 12:05:06 PM PDT by
IrishCatholic
(No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
To: Soliton
By viewing evolution as the motion of energy flows toward a stationary state (entropy). . .LOL Gee, a brand new defintion for evolution. The author of this article begins with a faulty premise. The theory of evolution has nothing to do with 'energy flows'.
Good grief.
30 posted on
08/11/2008 12:15:26 PM PDT by
MEGoody
(Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
To: Soliton
32 posted on
08/11/2008 12:17:24 PM PDT by
woollyone
(100 rounds per week totals over 5000 rounds in a year. Just thought you'd want to know.)
To: Soliton
If the 2nd law were provable, then evolution would be disprovable.
40 posted on
08/11/2008 12:49:40 PM PDT by
DungeonMaster
(My son just joined the Navy!!!!!!!!!)
To: Soliton
PX-99 Nuclear-Fired Popcorn Popper activating, sir...
43 posted on
08/11/2008 1:06:34 PM PDT by
B-Chan
(Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
To: Soliton
I find the evolution of a highly complex organism like a cheetah to be a very poor example of entropy. Entropy would be enhanced more if cheetahs and their prey all were converted into trillions of bacteria.
Anyway the 2nd Law of thermodynamics applies to closed systems and is really irrelevant to life on earth, whose development is almost entirely dependent on enormous and relatively stable imports of energy from the sun. If one redrew the system boundaries to include the sun, then maybe one could talk about entropy vs. life. The linked article is basically pop pseudoscience.
To: Soliton
That doesn’t explain why there are still monkeys
56 posted on
08/11/2008 5:35:40 PM PDT by
Oztrich Boy
(So there you have it : Eliza Dushku has made my naughty list for the year)
To: Soliton
Don't reveal your ignorance, which is different from that of Creationist ID'ers.
Read up on the Three Laws and critique the article you posted. Then get back to me.
Cheers!
60 posted on
08/11/2008 8:07:11 PM PDT by
grey_whiskers
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