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Energy Boom in West Threatens Indian Artifacts
The New York Slimes ^ | August 2, 2008 | Kirk Johnson

Posted on 08/04/2008 10:38:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Less than a fifth of the park has been surveyed for artifacts because of limited federal money.

Much more definite is that a giant new project to drill for carbon dioxide is gathering steam on the park's eastern flank. Miles of green pipe snake along the roadways, as trucks ply the dirt roads from a big gas compressor station. About 80 percent of the monument's 164,000 acres is leased for energy development.

The consequences of energy exploration for wildlife and air quality have long been contentious in unspoiled corners of the West. But now with the urgent push for even more energy, there are new worries that history and prehistory -- much of it still unexplored or unknown -- could be lost.

At Nine Mile Canyon in central Utah, truck exhaust on a road to the gas fields is posing a threat, environmentalists and Indian tribes say, to 2,000 years of rock art and imagery. In Montana, a coal-fired power plant has been proposed near Great Falls on one of the last wild sections of the Lewis and Clark trail. In New Mexico, a mining company has proposed reopening a uranium mine on Mount Taylor, a national forest site sacred to numerous Indian tribes.

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1 posted on 08/04/2008 10:38:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Bravo sierra ...


2 posted on 08/04/2008 10:40:04 AM PDT by mgc1122
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Luckily for the artifacts and sites, the oil companies have thousands of leases that they're not even using -- otherwise the damage would be far worse. /sarc

I noticed that one of the projects mentioned was geothermal, which is considered "renewable" and "non-polluting" and "alternative".

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3 posted on 08/04/2008 10:41:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: mgc1122

Absolute Bravo Sierra. On Federal land an archaeological survey of any planned rig road, drill site, or pipeline route is mandatory, as are Raptor surveys, rare plants, endangered species, and whatever else they can think of, even on reclaimed rig/production road routes.


4 posted on 08/04/2008 10:43:14 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: mgc1122

Bravo Item Nuts George Orange.


5 posted on 08/04/2008 10:45:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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Wanted to read this story. Really did. But I couldn't get past this:

At Nine Mile Canyon in central Utah, truck exhaust on a road to the gas fields is posing a threat...

6 posted on 08/04/2008 10:45:18 AM PDT by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: SunkenCiv
drill for carbon dioxide

Drill for what??????

7 posted on 08/04/2008 10:46:36 AM PDT by Foolsgold ("We live in the greatest country in the world and I am going to change it" Barry O'boomarang 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv
What a load, they were nomadic and scattered their crap all over the country.

Once they moved on it was abandon, plow it under.

8 posted on 08/04/2008 10:49:00 AM PDT by dalereed (both)
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To: Smokin' Joe; SunkenCiv

Forcing the private sector to underwrite their excavaton and documentation is the only way 90 percent of these sites will EVER be excavated.


9 posted on 08/04/2008 10:51:29 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Foolsgold
drill for carbon dioxide>br> Drill for what??????

LOL! That caught my eye too! I guess with people driving less, now there's a shortage? ;-)

10 posted on 08/04/2008 10:52:29 AM PDT by maryz
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To: SunkenCiv

“a giant new project to drill for carbon dioxide”

This author is getting hysterical. I wonder which environmental group(s) he gets his information from?


11 posted on 08/04/2008 10:56:40 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Boycott Washington D.C. until they allow gun ownership)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yeah, the culprit is old man Bush disturbing the Indian burial ground for oil. He would’ve gotten aways with it if it wasn’t for us gosh darn kids, er, journalists.


12 posted on 08/04/2008 10:58:04 AM PDT by Clemenza (McCain/Palin; Maverick and the MILF)
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To: SunkenCiv

Obviously the New York Times is against all forms of energy generation.

Which is ok. Soon enough they’ll be turning out the lights which will save us a ton.


13 posted on 08/04/2008 10:59:08 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (A kid at McDonalds has more real-world work experience than Barack Hussein.)
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To: SunkenCiv
is posing a threat, environmentalists and Indian tribes say, to 2,000 years of rock art and imagery. In Montana, a coal-fired power plant has been proposed near Great Falls on one of the last wild sections of the Lewis and Clark trail.

First of all I would like to repeat my position about unnamed "environmentalists and indian tribes."

My experience ahs been these are always a few obscure, ignorant and bitter individuals, whose sole goal in life is to feel important, by bringing the rest of the world to a halt.

Even toxic waste dumps can be charaterized as "unique." Doesn't mean that they must be preserved in their "pristine" state.

Indian rock drawings? Assuming (big if) that they are worth saving what is the rationalization? We can admire them them while we are freezing in the dark?

What's that defintion of insanity again?

14 posted on 08/04/2008 11:00:13 AM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: popdonnelly
This author is getting hysterical. I wonder which environmental group(s) he gets his information from?,p>I don't know and I don't want to know.

But I would like to really **** him off by reiterating that as far as I'm concerned, there is not a single thing that indians have contributed that I feel I couldn't live without. Nothing.

Now, if they had had the brains to invent the wheel, or even writing, I might reconsider...

15 posted on 08/04/2008 11:04:04 AM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: Foolsgold

drill for carbon dioxide

Drill for what??????

See explanation here:
http://www.unconventionalfuels.org/publications/factsheets/CO2_EOR_Fact_Sheet.pdf


16 posted on 08/04/2008 11:04:34 AM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: 3AngelaD
It is currently the cost of doing business in the oil patch, another hidden tax, but one the industry embraces. At least where I work, and in most areas, the people who work there live there for the most part. No one wants to mess up their own back yard.

Yet even our local paper carried an AP piece about how energy issues allegedly put sensitive areas in peril, which read like a Wilderness Society press release and included the Little Missouri Grasslands, an area of go-back land (former, failed homesteads) they tried to make into a Wilderness area about 20 years ago.

Sorry no link, the paper did not put the story on their website.

17 posted on 08/04/2008 11:08:37 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Foolsgold; popdonnelly

Yeah, ya gotta love that one. I hear it was Bush who cut off that federal program which provided dehydrated water to the reservations in arid states.


18 posted on 08/04/2008 11:28:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

No problem.. All they have to do is remove the pipe when the resources run out.


19 posted on 08/04/2008 12:30:40 PM PDT by Vlaxo
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To: SunkenCiv
Being part Native American, I don't like to see the Native Culture plowed under any more than I entertain the thought of someone plowing under the Smithsonian Institution buildings, the Capitol or the White House. There has to be a way to save the artifacts and to use the resources under the artifacts without obliterating or destroying the land.

If we can put a man on the Moon and build a Space Station, we have the ability to save the artifacts and make use of the resources under the artifacts.

These Native American artifacts are family heirlooms and are just as important as the items your family has passed down from generation to generation. Maybe these artifact/heirlooms got "misplaced" or "lost" or "left" by our ancestors, but they are still very important to us and should be important to anyone who lives in the USofA.

20 posted on 08/04/2008 1:38:21 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (I'm voting for J.S.McCain because he didn't take any money from the Palestinians (like BHO did).)
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