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Christian protests puts Philip Pullman's (author "Golden Compass") film trilogy in doubt
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 18/07/2008 | Stephen Adams

Posted on 07/18/2008 1:50:59 PM PDT by yankeedame

Christian protests put Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials film trilogy in doubt

By Stephen Adams
Last Updated: 1:01pm BST 18/07/2008

The future of the film trilogy based on Phillip Pullman's books His Dark Materials is in doubt after the controversial author said he did not know if the sequel to The Golden Compass would be made.

The first in the trilogy, which starred Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig, was dogged by accusations from American religious groups that it was anti-Catholic and even sought to "destroy God".

British author Pullman admitted such objections may have hit US box office sales....

The Oxford-based author said he had received no confirmation that the second book, The Subtle Knife, would be made into a film.....

...Pullman claimed religious attacks on The Golden Compass were misdirected but...Denying His Dark Materials was anti-Catholic, he still argued: "When religion gets its hands on the levers of power - whether to go to war, hold people prisoner or decide what they can or can't do - that is when it is dangerous.

"I find it very hard to understand how anyone can disagree with that. "In the world we live in, both Catholics and Protestants have wielded that power to the detriment of very many people."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Religion; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: antitheism; atheistsupremacist; culturewar; darkmaterials; goldencompass; liberalbigot; philippullman; thegoldencompass

1 posted on 07/18/2008 1:50:59 PM PDT by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame

2 posted on 07/18/2008 1:54:29 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: yankeedame

From my own researches, “The Golden Compass” would likely not have attracted nearly as much opprobrium had not the author spent years ranting and raving against christianity.

Furthermore, from a scan of the Amazon.com reviews, the quality of the writing drops off precipitously after the first installment. Far fewer people read “The Subtle Knife” and almost no-one reads “The Amber Spyglass.”


3 posted on 07/18/2008 1:56:24 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: yankeedame

Was it really protests or was it that the movie blew chunks? Even people who liked the book didn’t like the movie, that’s usually not a situation that spawns sequels.


4 posted on 07/18/2008 2:02:20 PM PDT by boogerbear
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To: yankeedame
"When religion gets its hands on the levers of power - whether to go to war, hold people prisoner or decide what they can or can't do - that is when it is dangerous. "I find it very hard to understand how anyone can disagree with that.

Antitheism is the intolerant ideology of atheist supremacists. It's not enough that they don't believe in God, they believe that religion itself should be outlawed (eventually).

5 posted on 07/18/2008 2:05:31 PM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: yankeedame
"In the world we live in, both Catholics and Protestants have wielded that power to the detriment of very many people."

His "final solution" should apparently involve making sure that neither Catholics nor Protestants can take a position of public office ever again. Another idiot who thinks there should be a true "separation of church and state" to the point that there's a religious test for office. Notice he specifically avoids saying anything bad about Muslims in positions of power though.
6 posted on 07/18/2008 2:08:05 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: yankeedame

read later


7 posted on 07/18/2008 2:09:36 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: yankeedame
It's a big planet, and we've got 2000 years of history to lookover -- have Christians done some bad things? You bet. Humans are flawed, and mistakes have been made in the name of the Christian faith. It doesn't hurt to admit that.

On the other hand, pretty much every good thing done in the past 2000 years has been done as the basis of Christian faith. Art, science, economics, exploration, individual rights, property rights -- all basically brought to you courtesy of Christianity.

Philip Pullman thinks thats a darn shame.

8 posted on 07/18/2008 2:10:46 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: weegee
It's not enough that they don't believe in God, they believe that religion itself should be outlawed (eventually).

Well, at least the ones that they believe will go fairly quietly into the night. They don't usually say much of anything about the religions that threaten to chop your head off if you look at their burka-clad wives the wrong way, except when it can score them political points against the non-violent religions.
9 posted on 07/18/2008 2:11:15 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: yankeedame

Or in other words, the movie did poorly. C’est la vie.


10 posted on 07/18/2008 2:12:25 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. We're basking - how about you?)
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“The first in the trilogy, which starred Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig, was dogged by accusations from American religious groups that it was anti-Catholic and even sought to “destroy God”.

British author Pullman admitted such objections may have hit US box office sales....”

No what hit US boxoffice sales was that the movie was crap, and the reviews said so.


11 posted on 07/18/2008 2:16:00 PM PDT by LAforme2008
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“Or in other words, the movie did poorly. C’est la vie”

The movie did well overseas, and was a blockbuster in Europe. But for these huge budgets, you need an American blockbuster to be profitable, and religious Americans, well aware of the intent of the author, stayed away from the film in droves. The studio execs knew after the first week’s take that it would do poorly in the US. They also know that the audience likely isn’t going to get better, only worse, because even the director (who soft-peddled the message in the first movie) admits that in the sequels, the anti-god message is front in center. Without it, you just don’t have a story. And that just won’t sell in America.


12 posted on 07/18/2008 2:59:07 PM PDT by DesScorp
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... in the sequels, the anti-god message is front in center

Yes, I read the first two books, but before the third came out, I read an interview with the author about his intentions for the series. I was disappointed to learn that he's such a bat, because I'd enjoyed his non-fantasy historical fiction.

Reviewers found the movie of the "The Golden Compass" poorly done, exaggerating the weaknesses of the book. It's too bad, in a way, because it had a good cast.

13 posted on 07/18/2008 3:06:30 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. We're basking - how about you?)
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To: DesScorp

Even the atheists of my acquaintance thought the movie blew. I don’t think it was so much the theistic message of the movie as the fact that it sucked rocks.


14 posted on 07/18/2008 7:12:23 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; LucyT; texasredhead8712; ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1923315/posts

[snip] Pullman left little doubt about his intentions when he said in a 2003 interview that “my books are about killing God.” He has even stated that he wants to “kill God in the minds of children”. [end]


15 posted on 07/18/2008 10:32:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: DesScorp; LAforme2008
The anti-God thing is so terribly trite these days. One must suppose the Europeans were drawn to a crappy movie because they make so few of them these days.

Indian movies actually draw well in Europe ~ always something about some god or two in any of them, plus dancing, singing, scenes in New York City, etc.

Reading about the writer, his focus, his movie ~ is there some reason anyone would want to watch it? Did they perhaps come up with a new way of having sex ~ now that might be edgy enough to get me to pay $10.85 for afternoon matinee in an empty theatre.

BTW, any of you guys notice how all the micro movie houses are all being closed, as are the bigger units in malls? The theory is digital large screen TV is just wiping them out.

16 posted on 07/25/2008 5:40:59 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Sung Dynasty invented most of our fundamental industrial processes. That includes watch movements, oil well derricks, trestle bridges, etc.

They weren't Christian.

17 posted on 07/25/2008 5:43:13 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: yankeedame

Good.


18 posted on 07/25/2008 5:43:27 PM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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