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Man Uses Permanent Marker to Fool Photo Radar
Fox News ^ | 7-10-08

Posted on 07/10/2008 7:37:36 PM PDT by rawhide

A 44-year-old Arizona man allegedly tried to fool the photo radars that record a vehicle's speed. It worked for a while — until the police caught up with him.

Timothy Welsh allegedly used a permanent marker to change both the 3 and the 9 on his license plate to an 8, so when his vehicle got nabbed for speeding, the ticket was sent to someone else...

At first, Scottsdale Sgt. Jim Butera thought it was a mistake when a Phoenix man called him complaining he had gotten two speeding tickets mailed to him, but he wasn't the one speeding.

When Butera looked at the photo and saw the man making an obscene gesture at the camera he thought, "[we] need to do some more investigating."

"He didn't think it was that big of a deal," Butera told the station. "But he admitted to everything that we accused him of."

Welsh allegedly was going 14 mph over the speed limit and would have had to pay a $175 fine, but now, he's facing a $1,500 fine and up to a year in jail.

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KEYWORDS: donutwatch; photo; radar
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1 posted on 07/10/2008 7:37:37 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

Identity theft.


2 posted on 07/10/2008 7:39:38 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: rawhide

A good argument against speed cameras. Fortunately in Texas speed cameras are illegal.


3 posted on 07/10/2008 7:39:39 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: rawhide

Throw some mud onto your license plate and you won’t be spending 1 year in jail for forging a plate, idiot!


4 posted on 07/10/2008 7:42:44 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Little Pig
Fortunately in Texas speed cameras are illegal.

Does that stop cops from using 'em?

5 posted on 07/10/2008 7:42:53 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (please consider the environment when purchasing the New York Times)
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To: Mamzelle

If you are going to change your license plate don’t be arrogant enough to flip off the camera.


6 posted on 07/10/2008 7:43:34 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: rawhide
When Butera looked at the photo and saw the man making an obscene gesture at the camera he thought, "[we] need to do some more investigating."

Yeah, I'll bet that's what he said. Cops hate that.

7 posted on 07/10/2008 7:44:07 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (please consider the environment when purchasing the New York Times)
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To: Little Pig

I have to admit: I half applaud the guy for it. There’s something about these speed cameras that rubs me the wrong way. Well, for starters, I tend to think speed limits are too low, anyway. Further, the whole idea of employing video surveilance to monitor the flow of citizens is a bit 1984ishs to me.

The guy was pretty clueless in flipping the cop off, but as I say that, I think the fact that the plates ultimately wouldn’t match up with the vehicle registration model (in all likelihood) would have the same net effect.

I guess in that respect, the mud on the license plate is just about the only way to beat the system without facing repercusions.


8 posted on 07/10/2008 7:56:12 PM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: Little Pig

Red light cameras were recently set up in Amarillo.....all about revenue ! I suspect speed cameras will be next.


9 posted on 07/10/2008 8:08:42 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Little Pig
A good argument against speed cameras. Fortunately in Texas speed cameras are illegal

Red light revenue generators, er uh, I mean cameras are legal in Texas and I suspect speeding will eventually follow.
10 posted on 07/10/2008 8:19:46 PM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: Southack
Throw some mud onto your license plate and you won’t be spending 1 year in jail for forging a plate, idiot!

This is illegal. You are responsible, by law, to keep your license plate clean and visible while on public roads, at least in Texas any way...
11 posted on 07/10/2008 8:20:40 PM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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12 posted on 07/10/2008 8:24:52 PM PDT by Daffynition
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To: CaspersGh0sts
Enforcement by photo radars and red light cameras seriously insult the right to due process. States argue that drivers voluntarily give up that right when exercising the driving “privilege”.

What we have today is the result of a series of court decisions handed down in the days when most folks still got around by horse & buggy - decisions granting states broad power to regulate the use of those strange and powerful rich men's contraptions.

While not specifically enumerated as an individual right, it need not be. I don't believe the founders intended to bestow upon government the power to regulate personal travel in the manner or to the extent it is being done today.

13 posted on 07/10/2008 8:42:19 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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14 posted on 07/10/2008 8:48:36 PM PDT by JRios1968 ("If you go over a cliff with all flags flying, you are still going over a cliff"--Ronald Reagan)
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To: Little Pig
Fortunately in Texas speed cameras are illegal.

"Despite the near-unanimous opposition in the state legislature to the use of speed cameras, the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) is moving forward on a proposal to deploy photo radar on state highways using federal gas tax funds. Legislation awaiting Governor Rick Perry's signature prohibited only municipalities -- like Marble Falls and Rhome -- from installing automated speeding ticket systems. It was silent on the possibility of a state-run system"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1848525/posts

15 posted on 07/10/2008 9:11:01 PM PDT by PAR35
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I am against speed cameras. With that said, I think it is funny what the guy did. One person posted that speed limits are posted too low. One thing, we may have a big problem coming thanks to the mouth of a Virginia Senator - John Warner. He is calling for the return of the 55 mph speed limit. I am thinking, not that bull$h!t again.

Mark my word, if it comes back I am sure states will be required to do photo enforcement to enforce it and be required to post points on people's license as an insult.

This 55 mph B.S. needs to be fought !
16 posted on 07/10/2008 9:17:19 PM PDT by CORedneck
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17 posted on 07/10/2008 9:38:23 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: CaspersGh0sts
What gets me is they have the cameras in the big city and if you are not use to driving in the city you can innocently make a right turn on a red when it is posted non permissible.

A Friend got ticketed for turning on a red on a tough spot that the turn to go that direction to get to the freeway is a quick miss.

So they have a camera there and it sent her a series of pics of her turning as the light hit red.

Her face up close in all the pics.

That is just wrong IMO.
Speeding on purpose is not the same as trying to maneuver in unknown territory.

18 posted on 07/10/2008 10:47:24 PM PDT by Global2010 (OKIE DOKIE)
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To: Dave in Eugene of all places

Hah speaking of big city red light camera traps.

Didnt Eugene just install one or is a speed cam out on some rural area of Eugene?


19 posted on 07/10/2008 10:52:59 PM PDT by Global2010 (OKIE DOKIE)
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To: CORedneck

I drive a WC van and 55 is just fine by me.

It maybe different for sporty cars that can handle the road at higher rates better.


20 posted on 07/10/2008 10:55:35 PM PDT by Global2010 (OKIE DOKIE)
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