Posted on 07/06/2008 10:04:26 AM PDT by GRAKUM
McCains X wife was with friends of mine recently at a cocktail party, as she is one of their neighbors. She totally sings his praises. She told them that she asked for a divorce due to her medical condition (private), that caused her disability. She continues to be in close touch with him and he continues to watch over her. They have a great relationship.
How on earth could you ever get that from my post?
“She asked him for a divorce and he gave her one.
My husband has offered to give me an out too. Do you think he’s being selfish?”
And he stated himself that his marriage ended because he had been selfish and immature. This selfishness was immoral. Him admitting it in public was honest and not making excuses for himself. Those on this forum making excuses for him are worthy of being exposed for the political partisans they are.
I am sure McCain does look out for her. He has a good relationship with his older kids and she is the mother of those kids. This is NO surprise.
I am not going to sit in judgment of anyone, especially McCain. I am not God and it is not my place to do so.
Casting a vote for him has nothing to do with any personal feelings, its about politics. The two are completely separatae.
“I am not going to sit in judgment of anyone, especially McCain. I am not God and it is not my place to do so.”
Well, I’ve got news for you. Our entire system of laws is based on making judgments. Murder is against the law because our society judges it to be immoral and harmful. Same for stealing and a whole host of other crimes.
What he did was not against the law. What he did was not uncommon. If we are to not sit in judgment of anyone however, then we should throw out our entire legal system and go to an every person for themselves plan.
This is not about any person having to be perfect. Nobody is perfect. It’s about holding up a certain level of accountability based on some basic ethics and morals and yes, rendering a judgment. I do have to say, that based on the fact McCain did own up to what he did, in spite of my extreme dislike of him, I have far more respect for him than I do those trying to rationalize what he did. The idea that nobody should ever be judged is partly responsible for the rapid decay of morality in our culture.
Divorce between a man and a woman is a lawfully civil action.
I can separate that action from I believe is lawful in society and what I believe spiritually.
Unfortunately, many on this thread cannot.
It is a proven fact that the patient usually outlives the caretaker.
I know what it is like to to joined at the hip, and never having a break, so I'm not judging,and I pray that you will have the strength to get through every day. It's tough and really tough.
I am sorry to hear about your husband and his blindness.
I guestion “my own sense of strongness” everyday.
Maria
“Divorce between a man and a woman is a lawfully civil action.
I can separate that action from I believe is lawful in society and what I believe spiritually.
Unfortunately, many on this thread cannot.”
You’re still missing the point. I don’t know in how many ways I can spell it out and when I get to the point of having to restate the obvious over and over again, I realize that I’m dealing with people who engage in circular reasoning and it becomes pointless.
How difficult is this to comprehend? ..........He committed an immoral action driven by his own selfishness at the time. Later, he admitted in a public way as much and made no excuses for himself. This is what people do that are not narcissists. Now, while running for President, he has a small following who actually worship him rather than support him because he’s less repugnant than his opponent. This small following show their desperation with their attempts to make excuses for all of McCain’s past mistakes by posting unverifiable stories like this and defending them. When called out on it, they resort to personal attacks of those calling them out. Even McCain doesn’t have as much of an inflated opinion of himself as his worshippers do.
His wife wanted a divorce. He granted her wish. He later felt it selfish of him to do so. By that time it was too late.
Divorce is not “immoral.”
Even Reagan divorced his first wife and remarried and became one of the best Presidents this Country has ever had.
And it is quite true that McCain doesn't attempt to justify his treatment of Carol.
Actually, I think rather than worry about who's allowed to make judgements about what, you should look to a minister or other counselor to help find support and to cope with the stress. There are organizations to help--start with your family doctor and see what's available in your community. There may be an option that will help you more than being tormented by fantasies of running away.
“I don’t believe he was involved in Carol’s caretaking, for instance.”
How could he have been? When he returned from Vietnam after being captivity of the enemy as a POW for five years she asked him for a divorce.
He granted her request.
My, he granted her request! LOL--I'm sorry, that's just funny. He had already "taken up" with Cindy. I guess he accepted the generous offer with great reluctance. He was not known for fidelity even before Cindy came along. I wonder if Carol ever requested fidelity.
And the divorce came a few years after his return from Vietnam. He was attempting a career in the Navy, but for some reason couldn't get promoted, despite his status as a war hero. Without the Navy, he had no career besides politics. For politics, he needed money and connections. Carol didn't have either.
I don’t know all the “ins and outs” of the personal lives of McCain, his current wife or first for that matter.
And I don’t have to know either to cast my vote for him.
Well, the thread topic is “John McCain’s First Wife” — you might ought to avoid threads like this one.
Why? Because I feel differently?
She was unhealthy and he was unhealthy. Maybe divorce was the better alternative. Heck, I don’t know and presume to speak for either one of them on a personal level.
She’s supporting him for President and so am I.
I agree. I'm still voting for McCain but this is sad.
FR is full of unsolicitated opinions, it's how this website works. Get used to it and don't be such an ass.
I’m well aware of how FR works, but please sir, can I be as much of an ass as you are? Or are you just following me around like a little dog?
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