Posted on 07/06/2008 10:04:26 AM PDT by GRAKUM
McCains X wife was with friends of mine recently at a cocktail party, as she is one of their neighbors. She totally sings his praises. She told them that she asked for a divorce due to her medical condition (private), that caused her disability. She continues to be in close touch with him and he continues to watch over her. They have a great relationship.
“Don’t let me interrupt your sanctimony, even though my question was not directed to you.”
Wow! Being sanctimonious has really been redefined hasn’t it. When my husband was deployed in war zones, I realized every day that he might come back without limbs, burned beyond recognition, paralyzed, etc. Would I not have a terrible time dealing with such a horrible thing? Yes I would. Would I leave him? Not in a million years. Even if I wanted to, I could not live with myself for doing so. He could beg me too, and I wouldn’t do it. If that makes me sanctimonious in your world-view, well then I guess that’s just the way some things are.
“There have been many Catholic priests who have taken a vow before God who have failed to live the life I had to live.
There is some truth to that old adage until you walk a mile in someone else’s shoes you can’t talk about it.”
And this is too often abused to excuse away people’s behaviors and actions. That old adage has to with judging people harshly for a standard you yourself are unable and unwilling to meet.
“And this is too often abused to excuse away people’s behaviors and actions.”
Who is using it as a way to excuse away anyone’s behavior?
If you are really a McCain supporter, you are doing a poor job of it here on this thread.
I’m a “hold my nose” McCain supporter, but thanks for your unsolicited opinion, anyway.
McCain’s first wife wanted the divorce and he gave it to her. That sounds like he had only honor and respect for her.
You’re going to hear from some angry women for that comment.
It really doesn’t have anything to do with sex.
No, not to me or you.
“Who is using it as a way to excuse away anyone’s behavior?”
The person who posted this and framed it as him just doing what his wife wanted him do as if her being selfish justified him being selfish at the time. Also. those defending such a position.
He himself has not tried to engage in the type of mental gymnastics I’ve seen on this forum to excuse his past behavior. He himself has stated that his marriage ended because of his own selfishness. We all have things for which we have had to apologize for and own up to. Or at-least we should. The only people that don’t own up to what they’ve done wrong are people with narcissistic personality disorders and such. Why are politicians and other powerful people not held up to the same standards we all are? Those defending him for leaving his wife just look silly and desperate trying to excuse away something he himself has owned up to.
And then there is...
Bob Barr had acquiesced to his then-wife having an abortion in 1983.
He had also invoked a legal privilege during his 1985 divorce proceeding so he could refuse to answer questions on whether he’d cheated on his second wife with the woman who is now his third.”
She asked him for a divorce and he gave her one.
My husband has offered to give me an out too. Do you think he’s being selfish?
What could Bob Barr had done to stop his wife from getting an abortion?
My husband was blind for the last 15 years of his life. The thought of deserting him never entered my mind. Taking care of him was a labor of love. He passed away a year ago this coming Tuesday. I’d do it all over in a heartbeat. We would have been married 50 years this coming Nov. Yes, care giving is exhausting, but worth it.
“Oh, excuse me! I thought we were talking about John McCain, not you. I didn’t realize this whole thread was about you and what you claim you would do in some hypothetical situation. Your sanctimony and self-righteousness are setting you up for a big fall when something actually happens to you.”
We were talking about John McCain up until the point another poster implied that I was being judgmental and such, requiring me to explain to them the difference between being judgmental and a hypocrite and holding others up to the same moral standards that one holds themselves to. Because this situation has not happened to me, does not mean I do not know how I would feel and that I would not leave my husband because he became disabled. I don’t think it’s being self-righteous to make a promise to someone you marry to stand by them in “sickness and in health”. If so, marriage vows themselves must only be for the self-righteious. It used to be in our culture, the norm for people to not abandon their spouses when they became sick or disabled, I guess things have just changed that much.
I meant to say “her being selfless”.
What’s been desperately lost in this thread is everyone’s sense of humanity and compassion.
No two situations are the same and cannot be equally judged by anyone except their own souls and God.
So you think abortion is OK since you can’t stop a wife, dau. etc from hve one
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