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Discover Area's Primal Past at Indian Museum of Lake County
Cleveland Plain Dealer ^ | June 03, 2008 | Deanna R. Adams

Posted on 06/23/2008 8:25:34 PM PDT by Pontiac

Did you know that if you live in Lake County, there is a chance you can still find an ancient Indian artifact in your own backyard? And if you lived in Eastlake in the 1970s, you most likely did.

Thousands of artifacts including pipes, stones, shells, bone hair pins and beads, turned up in the area in 1973 when property on Reeves Road was sold to make way for condominiums. Pipes, in particular, were easy finds.

"There were so many pipes in the area because there were a lot of tobacco patches there," says Ann Dewald, director of the Indian Museum of Lake County.

(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...


TOPICS: History; Local News; Science
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; godsgravesglyphs; history; ohio
This is an old article and I typically would not post something like this especially because the rest of the article is a plug for the museum.

But considering that East Lake Ohio is on the shore of Lake Erie about four hundred miles north of the Ohio River and about six hundred miles north of were tobacco is grown now and no tobacco will grow in East Lake today, I found this article of intense interest.

How is it that tobacco has a history of cultivation in the most Northern part of Ohio in distant past long before the evil industrial white man came to this land and yet Anthropomorphic Global Warming is driving climate change that will destroy civilization?

1 posted on 06/23/2008 8:25:35 PM PDT by Pontiac
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To: Pontiac

I beg to differ, good sir.

I read a fascinating article in the WSJ last year concerning the little-remarked-upon fact that since tobacco was “deregulated” (no more subsidies OR restrictions) several years ago, it has in fact become more profitable than ever and is gradually being grown in parts of the country that had not seen it since the nineteen-thirties.

The article that I remember mentions a veteran tobacco farmer from TN who has made a new career for himself working as a consultant teaching tobacco farming to fellow sod-busters in far-off states, among them, Ohio.


2 posted on 06/23/2008 8:37:17 PM PDT by sinanju
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Well if I am wrong I will gladly accept the correction.

If you find the link post it to me.

I have never heard before of Tobacco being cultivated in Ohio.

I have heard of Burly (one of the more hardy varieties) being grown as far north as Kentucky but that is aout it.

It could be that the shorter growing season meant that Ohio could not compete with the southern state and so it was never a cash crop.

3 posted on 06/23/2008 8:45:26 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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The gist of the article was that without price supports tobacco was expected to collapse but that without any kind of taxpayer props or mickey mouse restrictions the American farmer can surprise even himself.


4 posted on 06/23/2008 8:55:57 PM PDT by sinanju
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I wish I had seen that article. The last I read was that US growers could not compete with foreign groweres and were finding new crops to plant. RJR and other big tobacco buyers were buying from Turkey, India and Africa.


5 posted on 06/23/2008 9:12:18 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: sinanju
By the way I liked Remo Williams myself.

The new movie Wanted seems to have the same sort of premise; The noblest public service is assassination. (Kill one save a thousand)

6 posted on 06/23/2008 9:21:57 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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“There were so many pipes in the area because there were a lot of tobacco patches there,” says Ann Dewald, director of the Indian Museum of Lake County.

Like, woah, dude, think of all the pipes they’re going to find in Berkeley like 500 years from now.


7 posted on 06/23/2008 10:20:13 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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8 posted on 06/24/2008 9:53:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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I worked for a head nurse in Oregon about 30 years ago who would try to not give me coverage for breaks, “because you would just go smoke an evil cigarette.”

When she let it be known she was quitting & leaving the area, we also found out she owned a 5 acre tobacco allotment toward her retirement.

When I challenged her on her hypocrisy, she brayed back that it wasn't smoking tobacco; it was the chewing variety.

That acreage was in Wisconsin.

9 posted on 06/24/2008 10:35:09 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: Pontiac

I like museums.


10 posted on 06/24/2008 5:15:14 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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So do I

The museum in question is very small but nice.

If you are ever in Lake County, Ohio stop by and see it.

You won't have to dodge big crowds of people.

Lake and Ashtabula Counties Ohio have quite a few of these small museums operated by volunteers.

11 posted on 06/24/2008 6:07:58 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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