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Why smacking is a hit again
Gulf News ^ | 2/25/08 | Lesley Thomas

Posted on 02/25/2008 8:57:10 AM PST by qam1

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To: diamond6

Thanks! They really are great kids. I’m very proud of both of them.


81 posted on 02/25/2008 11:56:54 AM PST by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: Marie

As my daughter says, “A couple of stings, you learn your lesson and it’s over. Grounding and restrictions just go on and on! It’s torture! Half the time you forget why you were grounded anyway. You always remember why you got a spanking.”

EXACTLY.

It’s about timeliness, alot of it. A hit is fast and to the point, and gets the message across in a hurry (and there ARE times when there IS no time or else the kid or their victim is going to be in serious danger).

Waiting around doesn’t help things (I say that for spankings, too - they should be immediate). Look at the prison system. Especially at the death-penalty level. The death penalty “isn’t a good deterrent” ANY MORE because it goes on and on for decades before being carried out - and then, the perp gets out of it with an appeal (never mind how few are ever punished this way at all). When it was carried out within a month’s time - THAT was a deterrent!

If you do things immediately, it makes a point much more than dragging it out. It’s not “forgotten”, and it doesn’t seem like it’s misplaced.


82 posted on 02/25/2008 11:57:45 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Oh yea, he disavowed his own stuff a LONG time ago.. I’ll see what I can find on it.

His own kid committed suicide.


83 posted on 02/25/2008 11:59:47 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

“when capital punishment is going to be laid down”

I hope you meant “corporal” punishment. They wouldn’t be getting back up if the capital punishment was laid down.


84 posted on 02/25/2008 12:20:42 PM PST by jjm2111 (Are we going to have a Daily Dose of McCain?)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
When one stifles discipline and then only responds by lashing out, this is a dangerous reaction. All the new age crap traps parents into this situation. That stress needs to go somewhere and parents like these don’t know how to handle it. So the child gets it two/three fold worse than if they had been using corporal punishment all along.

Hence their remorse for “lashing out.” They don’t know what parental anger is, they have been so sucked into the no violence model. Their anger, really rage, in the cases as described is misplaced.

Example: the day at the beach story. If the needed discipline had been enforced earlier in the day...most likely the out burst at the end of the day would not have happened. Instead the parenting style allowed for the build-up of stress in the parent.

85 posted on 02/25/2008 12:24:01 PM PST by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: dead

The woman who got hit is probably one of those maddening “educator” types that does the school equivalent of poking the wolf with a stick.


86 posted on 02/25/2008 12:24:32 PM PST by jjm2111 (Are we going to have a Daily Dose of McCain?)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I know! LOL I was just saying... I spent a lot of quality time in the back of a station wagon with all my younger sibling/cousins/friends—seatsup and down. We thought it was cool to ride down the road with the back window down/tailgate down. Half the stuff I remember from my childhood wouldn’t jsut get a parent locked up nowadays—they’d be under the jail!


87 posted on 02/25/2008 12:49:56 PM PST by gardengirl
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To: TheKidster

You have my sympathies. Told #2 son I hope he has 10 kids just like himself. He didn’t sleep over night until he was over 2 years old, and the he was the poster child for colic!


88 posted on 02/25/2008 12:52:02 PM PST by gardengirl
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To: the OlLine Rebel

(look at other animals).

I’ve always said that! I have a beagle colored rat terrier taht looks like a miniature greyhound. She’s the best momma dog I’ve ever seen. She doesn’t get ugly often, but when she does, retribution is swift and efficient, then forgotten. Exactly the way it should be. No yelling, no screaming, no threats. She is the authority, and you better not sass her! Do you think she feels remorse for disciplining anyone, dog or human, that needs it? NO.


89 posted on 02/25/2008 12:57:08 PM PST by gardengirl
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To: gardengirl

Yes, and horses nip and “kick” their young. Oh, the horrors!

And dogs are known for taking the pup by the scruff of the neck - and this became a popular method for physically challenging the dog by the human. Except of course for those who not only now tell us “no touchy-touchy”, but also, don’t even look mean at your dog! Because that’s just mean!!!


90 posted on 02/25/2008 1:31:42 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: gardengirl

Take that curse back!!!

My Mom said the same thing to me and it happened!


91 posted on 02/25/2008 1:32:34 PM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Darcymom is the gentlest, most loveable dog you can imagine, but she has definite parameters. You cross her lines and she’ll put you in your place in a heartbeat. No blood drawn, ever, but she can intimidate with the best of them. The lessons are quick and to the point, and i’ve never seen any of her offspring forget any of them. She should be a role model for humans! LOL


92 posted on 02/25/2008 1:41:07 PM PST by gardengirl
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To: gardengirl

But, but, her children will HATE her! And they’ll become vicious little thugs who know nothing but “violence” as a solution!


93 posted on 02/25/2008 1:48:35 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: TheKidster

I think it’s a boomerang curse—you know who’s going to end up babysitting all those monsters! LOL


94 posted on 02/25/2008 1:50:16 PM PST by gardengirl
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Contrary to popular “knowledge”, Darcymom’s kids are all extremely well behaved (in spite of their father). LOL Not only that, she’s a neighborhood mom. She takes no misbehavior from any body’s kids, hers or not.

Like I said, she should be a role model for humans!


95 posted on 02/25/2008 1:54:43 PM PST by gardengirl
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To: qam1
Click the pic to see how to handle rowdy kids
96 posted on 02/25/2008 1:57:34 PM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: E Rocc
posteriorally administered attitude adjustment.

LOL! I can think of several people of all ages who could use some of that.

97 posted on 02/25/2008 2:51:37 PM PST by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: qam1

Go Google “mothering dot commune,” and read through the “Gentle Disciplining” forum. You’ll be horrified — these people are raising an entire generation if brats!


98 posted on 02/25/2008 3:34:27 PM PST by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: Malacoda
Yikes!!!

Just browsed it, This one is scary

Alternatives to Punishment

Copy this list and post it where you can see it, as a constant reminder.

Use positive reinforcement.
Create a positive environment.
Say yes as much as possible.
Save no for the important things.
Use natural consequences.
Use logical consequences.
Use restitution.
Leave it up to your child.
Compromise.
State your expectations, and get out of the way.
Give specific instructions.
Give a reason.
Offer help.
Give a choice.
Redirect your child.
Remove your child.
Make positive statements.
Give in occasionally.
Give your child time to agree.
Simply insist.
Make rules.
Ignore some behavior.
Avoid nagging and threats.
Distract your child.
Use humor.
Make it a game.
Be willing to admit your mistakes.
Stop and think before you act.
Don’t make a big fuss over little things.
Stick to routines.
Don’t hurry your children too much.
Get to the root of the problem.
Correct one behavior at a time.
Give yourselves time.
Use the golden rule.
Model appropriate behavior.
Think of your child as an equal.
Always keep your love for your child in mind.

105,000 members of that board and not one of them can figure out that a Child doesn’t have the reasoning capacity as an adult, no wonder there are so many out of control kids

99 posted on 02/25/2008 3:46:54 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

Yep. Go in and read some of the posts from women looking for advice...scary.


100 posted on 02/25/2008 3:49:23 PM PST by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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