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Where have all the good sci-fi films gone (vanity)?
Yours truly

Posted on 02/19/2008 11:03:14 AM PST by rjp2005

Where have all the sci-fi films gone?

Those simple, thought-provoking speculative tales about how people respond to something new, what kind of moral choices they make, keeping traditions in the face of technological change. Essentially, the kind of films that were thought provoking and story/character driven - Day the Earth Stood Still, Planet of Apes, 12 Monkeys, Minority Report (more action though but good), etc.

The "Superhero and Fantasy Genre Craze" since Spiderman and LOTR has really eaten up a lot of support for original sci-fi works to film...

For 2008, we have two horror/slasher types "I Am Legend" (Omega Man remake) and "Death Race" (revisiting the 70's version), another superhero film in "Jumper", "Iron Man", which could be a treat, and maybe the only true sci-fi attempt, "Babylon A.D.". There was also "Sunshine", a late 90's disaster film leftover, possibly funded by Global Warming-mongers ;)


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: sciencefiction; scifi; sfreference
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To: A Texan

Well, they paid to show the existing epsodes, but they cannot make any new ones. Fox stillhas the rights, and they evidently don’t want to play with anyone else where those are concerened. Fox has even gone to the point of shutting down local gatherings of Firefox fans who were getting together to watch the DVDs of the series, even though they weren’t charging for attendance. Fox evidently doesn’t want to do anything with the property, but doesn’t wnat to let anyone else do something with it (as a series at least)either.


221 posted on 02/19/2008 1:09:27 PM PST by tarawa
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To: Army Air Corps
You probably already knew this, but Blade Runner was an adaptation of Phillip Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? Total Recall was adapted from his short story We Can Remember It For You Wholesale, and Minority Report was from, uh, Minority Report.

IMHO, Dick was one of the best Sci-Fi writers. His strength was in addressing the issues that happen when technology becomes so realistic it displaces reality in our every day lives.

222 posted on 02/19/2008 1:09:55 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Sure, they'd love to kill me, as long as they can do it without admitting I exist)
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To: -YYZ-
Oh, c’mon. It’s good silly fun, with good visuals, and a cute girl. Not good science fiction, maybe, but entertaining at least.

True...but it's not good science fiction.

223 posted on 02/19/2008 1:10:47 PM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: squidly

When the sci fi channel first came on the scene I thought we were going to see lots of old sci fi flicks from years gone by but it is a bust. Nothing but c and d movies lousy acting not worth a dime!


224 posted on 02/19/2008 1:10:53 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Id rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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To: BlazingArizona

That would be great. Also might add Destinations End.


225 posted on 02/19/2008 1:12:30 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: ReignOfError
I'd like to know what you think of as a "betrayal." Especially in light of the fact that the creator of the series was the writer and director of the movie.

The point of the series was that it was about characeters who weren't movers and shakers. They didn't set policy, they were crushed by it. The little people that most sci fi projects ignore. Scrupulously observed throughout the series, that was tossed overboard for the film in favor of a pedestrian "save the universe" plot.

Whedon made a Faustian pact, to give the series a second chance at life. I don't blame him for that, or what he had to do to get it. The story that floated around before the film crashed and burned was that, if it was successful and he got another television series, they were going to pick up where the first series left off and ignore the film's continuity entirely.

If I had seen the film first, I probably wouldn't understand either. But the film was a rejection of the themes of the series.

226 posted on 02/19/2008 1:12:40 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: 6ppc

Here’s a fun website to peruse:
http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/archive.html


227 posted on 02/19/2008 1:12:51 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Richard Kimball

Indeed, I am familiar with Dick’s work. He had some serious personal problems, but his writing was usually good and had originality.


228 posted on 02/19/2008 1:13:31 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: FatherofFive
Galaxy Quest was a hoot, and got "Kirk" right.

GALAXY QUEST was the best Trek film ever, just as THE INCREDIBLES was the best Fantastic Four movie possible.

229 posted on 02/19/2008 1:13:52 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Oatka; glide625

OMG, Glide, Oatka knows who Meg Foster is too!

Oatka, Glide was freaking out for days trying to figure out who Meg Foster was. He calls her the girl with no eyes.


230 posted on 02/19/2008 1:14:41 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: ReignOfError
unlike FOX, played them in the proper order.

And they actually pay the first episode instead of starting with The Train Job.

231 posted on 02/19/2008 1:15:23 PM PST by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: Always Independent

“the Crawling Eye”
Now that one scared the poop outa me as a kid! It was at a double-feature. The other movie was “The Mole People!”


232 posted on 02/19/2008 1:15:27 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

My vote for Larry Niven novel to become a movie: Protector


233 posted on 02/19/2008 1:15:41 PM PST by wishuponastarr
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To: BlazingArizona

The Honor Harrington series would be good, too.


234 posted on 02/19/2008 1:16:55 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: Sherman Logan
I recommend avoiding the rewrite of the Book of Mormon set in the far future.

Which book is that one? I've not read a lot of Orson Scott Card.

235 posted on 02/19/2008 1:18:26 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: ReignOfError
Re: GORT KLAATU BARADA NIKTO. Remember that. It's very important.

Okay, lets see... I recall:

Helen: I thought you were...
Klaatu: I was.

Or... was that:

Charlie: They said you was hung.
Bart: And they was right.

I must be getting Day the Earth Stood Still... mixed up with Blazing Saddles!

236 posted on 02/19/2008 1:18:46 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: 6ppc

“That’s some of the crap I was complaining about in my last post.”
I enjoy humor! And love it in an SF movie like 5th Element and in music like Zappa’s. Favorite? “Forbidden Planet” The music drives my Chinese-born wife crazy every time I watch it. I find that funny too!


237 posted on 02/19/2008 1:18:50 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: highball
You're right. Galaxy Quest parodied Star Trek while still treating it with great respect. The Incredibles spoofed the FF, but also the old James Bond movies and a lot of it was adapted from the old comic book "The Watchmen." My favorite scene from the movie was the one where his boss called him in: "I'm not happy, Bob. Not happy."

One thing that's weird to me about the Fantastic Four movies is how small the characters seem. They don't have the grandeur or seem larger than life, as characters of that type should. They don't seem heroic; they're just people who happened to get super powers, and there's nothing special about them.

238 posted on 02/19/2008 1:21:50 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Sure, they'd love to kill me, as long as they can do it without admitting I exist)
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To: Richard Kimball

Dick was great. But I also enjoy Jack Vance and A.E Van Voigt.


239 posted on 02/19/2008 1:22:16 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Richard Kimball

Philip K. Dick, the best description of his work was “achieved a level of paranoia in the 60’s that most of us are only beginning to appreciate today.”

That could work with John Brunner too.


240 posted on 02/19/2008 1:23:42 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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