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NLOS Cannon Challenge ("No line of sight" cannon firing game! Fun!)
dsc.discovery.com ^ | Jan., 2008 | Discovery Channel

Posted on 01/30/2008 4:15:41 PM PST by dynachrome

"Use simulated velocity and elevation controls to destroy enemy targets with indirect fire"

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Science; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: artillery; cannon; fdc; fist; gametime
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To: Darksheare

Well (no pun) there was this nasty persistent odor and rash.......:o)

Later !......Stay safe !


61 posted on 01/31/2008 9:50:31 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

LOL!
Not what I’d like ot walk away with.
But considering some of what we found at Drum, the sinkhole by the old firing range comes to mind, that’d be the least of my worries.
(Where’s Killer B? I dunno, I thought you were following him! I was, but he vanished!)


62 posted on 01/31/2008 9:53:32 AM PST by Darksheare (Do you or anyone you know suffer from Bunny on the Head?)
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To: Darksheare

Pink Mist was always a hazard albeit DDOT was my worst fear......(don’t drop on toes)


63 posted on 01/31/2008 9:59:31 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

Ouch.
Nothing hurts worse than dropping the projectile onto the arch of the foot.
THAT smarts.


64 posted on 01/31/2008 10:00:54 AM PST by Darksheare (Do you or anyone you know suffer from Bunny on the Head?)
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To: Darksheare; GarySpFc
Sounds better than getting stuck in the middle of the guys playing OpFor and driving out with one of their vehicles.

I'm more usually tasked with being one of the Opfor elements [BTR70 and 80] and unfortunately swiping vehicles was outside the exercise administrative limits- for one thing, out BTR70s are placarded in Russian, and there's a real opportunity for a leadfoot to get hurt in a BTR, especially on turns.

But I did get to tell the *there I wuz* story about the 7th Army staff who annoyed a German Forester who'd offered them assistance during one of the 7th Army USAREUR exercises, by dismissing him as a *damn fool civilian* despite his 25-some years in the German Army from Wehrmacht to BGS to Bundeswehr...whereupon he *went over to the other side* and hooked up with the OpFor, in this case,. guys from the Tenth Special Forces group....who not only appreciated his knowledghe and assistance, but addressed the former Stabsfeldwebel with the respect due to his rank and assigned him a key position as scout. The SF raid teams had no trouble at all ocating the 7th Army Headquarters TOC, being guided to it by their trusty scout who'd actually been inside it.

It was later determined that due to some oversight, there was no blank ammo suitable for the old K98 rifle he was carrying, which bothered him not at all. He politely avoided actually shooting anyone, but several 7A vehicles lost their tire pressure, and some fairly critical radio equipment failed to operate afterb he was done shootin'.

Though 7th Army Staff was not happy afterward, the 10th Group guys gave him the highest honors they could: one of their own berets, and a standing invitation to the Group's Christmas parties at Bad Toelz.

65 posted on 01/31/2008 10:04:41 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: Darksheare

Yeah a close second to a marrying crimp on a blasting cap and time fuse held behind ya at the butt cheek that goes off !

OWOWOWOWOWWOWOWOWO !!!!

Recuperation is lots of standing, rice paddy prone and laying on the floor with the kids to watching TV !


66 posted on 01/31/2008 10:06:22 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: archy

Our dear Captain had us walk up to the TOC one fine Annual Training.
Because we arrived unchallenged, unseen, and unheard, the OC’s figured they would add some spice to the party.
So once we were on our merry piratical way back down the deer trail to where we were set up, the 42nd Inf guys came swarming up on the other side of the TOC.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen my dear former Cap leap, scream like a girl, and run that fast prior to that moment.
The XO loved it, laughed his head off during the retelling.


67 posted on 01/31/2008 10:09:32 AM PST by Darksheare (Do you or anyone you know suffer from Bunny on the Head?)
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To: Squantos

Thankfully, I haven’t experienced that one.

But I did have the OC’s throw a bunch of artillery simulators at my feet, mainly due to me popping out from the brush behind them and scaring them.
(Hey, nature called.. thankfully before having those things go off at my feet.)


68 posted on 01/31/2008 10:12:40 AM PST by Darksheare (Do you or anyone you know suffer from Bunny on the Head?)
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To: Darksheare

Those can be real ball busters if it was gravel ya were standing in !.......:o)

we used to blow buildings with those ....made flour charges. small bag of flour on a simulator, pull as ya run for the door and pull second one as you exit and throw back into room as 2nd man slams door and di di’s to the bar ditch for cover with ya .......bang then Kaboom !

Ahh chemistry......


69 posted on 01/31/2008 10:18:19 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

OUCH!
Thankfully I didn’t know that then, or I’d have whizzed my drawers on the spot.


70 posted on 01/31/2008 10:22:28 AM PST by Darksheare (Do you or anyone you know suffer from Bunny on the Head?)
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To: Darksheare; Squantos
But considering some of what we found at Drum, the sinkhole by the old firing range comes to mind, that’d be the least of my worries.

I think this guy has you beat.

U.S. 4,2 INCH white phosphorus (WP) shell, found September 2004

U.S. 60mm M49A2 (high explosive) HE mortar shell, found January 2005.

71 posted on 01/31/2008 10:34:31 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy; Squantos

That does beat a sinkhole anyday.


72 posted on 01/31/2008 10:39:06 AM PST by Darksheare (Do you or anyone you know suffer from Bunny on the Head?)
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To: Squantos
we used to blow buildings with those ....made flour charges.

Those worked real good on the old wooden boxcars used for moving ammo between storage igloos, too. We got tasked with ruining a bunch of those, with the caveat that we couldn't burn them because the underframes and running gear had to stay in one piece for rebuilding.

Okay. 215 dust initiator charges later, flatcars instead of boxcars, and numerous notwell-stacked piles of splintered lumber for the woodchipper.

73 posted on 01/31/2008 10:40:12 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: dynachrome
Even civilians can get involved in this stuff. Granted it's black powder and civil war era mortars its still a lot of fun to both watch and participate in! Making Mortar Magic
74 posted on 01/31/2008 10:45:16 AM PST by Species8472 (Politically motivated science is meaningless)
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To: archy

Ft Wingate NM was site of a surface and subsurface clearance a few years back .......massive amount of old (drum roll please) !!!

Mustard .... 75mm rounds.


75 posted on 01/31/2008 10:45:21 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: archy

Oh yeah......a childhood of watching Mr Wizard, a Chemistry Set and I was destined too my career.

A smart kid today with five dollars at radio shack can be a real pain for an IED team be they just wannabe few week wonders hazardous devices LEO’s / FLEA’s or real Military EOD who earned their crab.


76 posted on 01/31/2008 10:50:19 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos
A smart kid today with five dollars at radio shack can be a real pain for an IED team be they just wannabe few week wonders hazardous devices LEO’s / FLEA’s or real Military EOD who earned their crab.

A real dumb one with an M26 frag and a couple of rubber bands can be just as much of a pain, and *they* had a lot more disposable kids than we did M151 Jeeps and Deuce-and-a-halfs.

77 posted on 01/31/2008 11:00:54 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy

Yep....gas was hell on those rubber bands and electrical tape. We welded up our tank fill necks with smaller truck types so such was not a real hazard as it was in your day.


78 posted on 01/31/2008 11:05:08 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos
Ft Wingate NM was site of a surface and subsurface clearance a few years back .......massive amount of old (drum roll please) !!!

Mustard .... 75mm rounds.

Just HD, not the really nasty stuff [HD and DM] that got you puking in your mask until it filled up and you pulled it off.

Ever see A HD Chemical Mine? Just a one-gallon rectangular paint can, with a couple of heavy twistable wires soldered onto the side to attach a quarter-pound demo block to atomize and disperse it. Not real effectively, but useful for waterhole denial in arid places like Afghanistan or Iraq.

Filling was to be done by the Chemical Warfare Corps troopies, wearing full protective gear, then emplaced by the using units after decontamination of the outsides of the cans with DS2.

I used to have hundreds of the things that had never been filled, handy as hell if you had access to paint in 6-gallon plastic buckets and wanted it in something a bit more managable. Four snips with a sidecutter, and the demo charge retaining wires were gone, which made stacking the things a bit easier. I gave $ .08 each for them in thousand-can lots, as I recall.

79 posted on 01/31/2008 11:10:34 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: Squantos
We welded up our tank fill necks with smaller truck types so such was not a real hazard as it was in your day.

'Fess up. You were running unleaded....

80 posted on 01/31/2008 11:11:31 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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