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Vick Given 23 Month Sentence (Breaking)
TV | 12/10/2007 | me

Posted on 12/10/2007 7:46:54 AM PST by thefactor

Vick given a 23 month sentence. Plus 3 years of probation. Breaking.


TOPICS: Local News; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dogfighting; michaelvick; nfl; sentencing; vick; virginia
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To: MarkDel

I know your points are very impressive since they are in caps and everything - but one, logically and reasonably, need not be a leftist to be against animal torture. Also, your cute little analogy would have been better with a 8-0 score; thus alluding to the extra bit of sentencing.


61 posted on 12/10/2007 8:06:11 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: thefactor

23 months, beautiful, imo, he should have gotten a little more,,,,,,,vick’s career is soooooooo over. Hey Mikey, what goes around comes around, karma in action.


62 posted on 12/10/2007 8:07:01 AM PST by rockabyebaby (HEY JORGE, SHUT UP AND BUILD THE BLEEPING FENCE, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.)
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To: thefactor

Woof!

63 posted on 12/10/2007 8:07:06 AM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: jdub
The sentence first has to survive the appeals process.

IIRC Vick waived any right to appeal when he made his deal. He's still looking at a lot more from the state charges.

64 posted on 12/10/2007 8:07:06 AM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: thefactor
No Vick Salve, Judge Coughs up Huge Sentence
65 posted on 12/10/2007 8:07:51 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: MarkDel
i have dogs. if anyone ever hurt them like vick did, i'd have a difficult time not killing them.

roger cosack was just on ESPN explaining why the sentence was 23 months.

turns out vick lied on the FBI lie detector test about killing dogs himself and lied about the drug tests. so the judge did not subtract sentencing points.

this was not just about the charges. there are a lot of factors that vick had DIRECT control over that led to this sentence.

66 posted on 12/10/2007 8:08:01 AM PST by thefactor
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Had Vick committed this same crime 50 years ago, he would have received Probation or LESS. But in recent decades, all Americans (sadly including many here) have allowed themselves to be subtly, and not so subtly, brainwashed by Leftists to believe that Animals have legal rights beyond their status as property of Humans.

The logical incoherence of the Animals Rights position is truly insane, and yet sadly, so many Right Wingers buy into this whether they realize it or not.


67 posted on 12/10/2007 8:08:54 AM PST by MarkDel
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To: MarkDel

guess I’m an animal rights leftist then. I think 2 years is appropriate for the torture and slaugter of the innocent.

He needs to be punsihed harhly before he graduates to harming children.


68 posted on 12/10/2007 8:09:51 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: MarkDel
I despise Michael Vick, but DOUBLE the sentence recommended by the Prosecution is absolutely insane.

A condition of the deal was that he answer all questions about the illegal enterprise and his role in it. According to reports, the prosecutors and judge believe he was less than forthcoming with those answers, and then was less than honest.

If he didn't back up his end of the deal, he shouldn't be surprised that he got hit hard.

69 posted on 12/10/2007 8:10:16 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Moose4
I think he’s done

If he wants to play again, he will. In other words, if he wants to play again he will maintain his physical conditioning while in prison and be flexible about contract compensation.

Some team will pick him up at a discount price when he gets out and he will take an underdog (forgive the pun) shot at redemption.

70 posted on 12/10/2007 8:10:35 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: from occupied ga

Maybe, we don’t know what the deal was so saying they broke the deal has a lot of assumptions. Remember the fed likes to pile on extra charges if you make them go to trial, we don’t know what else they were planning on throwing at Vick or how much would have stuck and how much longer his sentence would be after that.


71 posted on 12/10/2007 8:10:37 AM PST by discostu (a mountain is something you don't want to %^&* with)
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To: from occupied ga

If you knew the law, which you obviously do not, judges ARE NOT held accountable to sentencing deals made by prosecutors. The judge does not represent the government in a court case. The judge is an independent body. Prosecutors represent the government or state.


72 posted on 12/10/2007 8:10:41 AM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul makes Jimmy Carter look tough and Dennis Kucinich look sane.)
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To: thefactor

Maybe Cleveland will pick him up.


73 posted on 12/10/2007 8:10:55 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Retired Greyhound
guess I’m an animal rights leftist then. I think 2 years is appropriate for the torture and slaugter of the innocent.

I hope you don't eat meat.

74 posted on 12/10/2007 8:11:45 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: MarkDel
"The score of this Football game... ANIMALS RIGHTS LEFTISTS: 7 LOGIC & REASON: 0"

Vick probably wishes he were a pedophile in Vermont now.

75 posted on 12/10/2007 8:12:26 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Lou L
Pro-lifers: -5

Rubbish!

The innocent are the winners today.

76 posted on 12/10/2007 8:12:51 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: from occupied ga

Ya think Vick testing positive for ganja while released awaiting sentencing most likely entered into the judge’s decision?


77 posted on 12/10/2007 8:13:18 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: jrooney; from occupied ga
turns out vick lied on the FBI lie detector test about killing dogs himself and lied about the drug tests.

And Vick has no-one to blame but himself.

78 posted on 12/10/2007 8:13:34 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: princess leah
THere should be a pool here on who thinks Vick will play again and for what team? My gut feeling is yes, he’ll play again (he’s still better than Rex Grossman even after 2 years in the pen)...He makes a statement that he’s had time to reflect on his life, blah, blah, blah, does the apology dance for some NFL team (which they’ll require as a signing point), and then play for someone like the Raiders!

Place your bets here.... Monday, August 20, 2007 Michael Vick Odds! "The only thing that matters is winning football games." -Michael Vick, January 2005 You probably thought there was a good chance you'd never be able to bet on Michael Vick and the Atlanta Falcons again. Turns out, you were only half right. The wonderful people at BetUS.com, because they are awesome, have posted odds on what will end up happening to Michael Vick (the irony of odds being posted on a scandal potentially involving a gambling ring...it's overwhelming, really). They have five different props- what his suspension from Goodell will be, how much jail time he'll be sentenced to, how much he'll be fined, what random stuff he'll do before the end of 2010, and if he'll ever play again. I feel it is my civic duty to break down these lines, so thats what I shall do. (Note: For each table, the first column is the listed odds, and the second column is the real chance those odds imply for that event happening.)

79 posted on 12/10/2007 8:13:53 AM PST by redrunner (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give." --Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: wideawake

I don’t think he’ll get unsuspended. Remember there’s gambling charges in there, and Goodell’s statement when he suspended Vick makes it clear that’s the part he dislikes the most. Gambling hits the heart of a sport, and that’s the part that’s going to keep Vick out of the NFL.


80 posted on 12/10/2007 8:13:56 AM PST by discostu (a mountain is something you don't want to %^&* with)
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