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of course it is getting rave reviews like this one For the Bible Tells Me So is never less than lively and stimulating in its arguments, even detouring into a very amusing cartoon dealing with the evidence that sexual orientation is biologically determined.

and this.. As long as it's dissecting the six or seven passages in the Bible that ostensibly disparage homosexuality, this documentary ode to tolerance takes a shrewd look at how speciously selective and ahistorical the church condemnation of gays really is.

1 posted on 10/05/2007 1:17:58 PM PDT by thehumanlynx
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To: thehumanlynx
Again, anyone who studies Leviticus knows that the various ordinances of the Torah have differing significance, differing priority and differing obligands.

The injunction against eating shellfish applies only to the people of Israel.

The designation of sodomy as an abomination is proscribed absolutely - it is not restricted to any specific ethnic or cultural group.

2 posted on 10/05/2007 1:26:48 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: thehumanlynx
What the Roman Catholic Catechism says about homosexuality.

Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered." They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

Some homosexual activists have argued that moral imperatives from the Old Testament can be dismissed since there were certain ceremonial requirements at the time—such as not eating pork, or circumcising male babies—that are no longer binding.

While the Old Testament’s ceremonial requirements are no longer binding, its moral requirements are. God may issue different ceremonies for use in different times and cultures, but his moral requirements are eternal and are binding on all cultures.

Pretty simple and straightforward to me.

3 posted on 10/05/2007 1:28:03 PM PDT by ladtx ( "I don't know how I got over the hill without getting to the top." - - Will Rogers)
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To: thehumanlynx
Church-sanctioned anti-gay bias is based almost solely upon a significant (and often malicious) misinterpretation of the Bible.

I don't know,

"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."

seems pretty unamibiguous.

5 posted on 10/05/2007 1:36:35 PM PDT by infidel29 (...no, actually rules are made to be followed. Otherwise they'd be called "options".)
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From Paul’s letter to the Romans, Ch. 1:

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

And from 1 Corinthians Ch. 6:

9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Yep - Pretty clear to me


6 posted on 10/05/2007 2:03:55 PM PDT by peteram (Liberals are just Stupid!)
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To: thehumanlynx; scripter

not sure if you had heard of this little gem yet


10 posted on 10/05/2007 2:34:15 PM PDT by thehumanlynx (Duncan Hunter - Duncan Hunter - Duncan Hunter - vote the primary)
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link to rotten tomatoes reviews of flick http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/for_the_bible_tells_me_so/


11 posted on 10/05/2007 2:36:27 PM PDT by thehumanlynx (Duncan Hunter - Duncan Hunter - Duncan Hunter - vote the primary)
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video trailer
15 posted on 10/05/2007 2:54:09 PM PDT by thehumanlynx (Duncan Hunter - Duncan Hunter - Duncan Hunter - vote the primary)
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“Can the love between two people ever be an abomination?”

The very first sentence presents a false premise. Sodomy is not love but lust. And yes, degenerate and voracious lust is ALWAYS an abomination.


18 posted on 10/05/2007 3:09:29 PM PDT by RedBloodedPatriot
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When God Abandons A Nation by John MacArthur
22 posted on 10/05/2007 3:28:40 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: thehumanlynx
As the film notes, most Christians live their lives today without feeling obliged to kill anyone who works on the Sabbath or eats shrimp (as a literal reading of scripture dictates).

Yes, most Christians feel the need to kill homosexuals?? I guess my preacher didn't get the message from the seminary.

24 posted on 10/05/2007 4:19:46 PM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: thehumanlynx

Yes. Queers, straight folks living in sin and incest either forced or willing.....I’d say that’s all abominable.


26 posted on 10/05/2007 4:25:58 PM PDT by Grunthor (I'd be Catholic but I don't speak latin and don't wanna learn just to go to church.)
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“Through the experiences of five very normal, very Christian, very American families — including those of former House Majority Leader Richard Gephardt and Episcopalian Bishop Gene Robinson...”

HAhahahaha...
Lost me right there...Robinson is a faggot, adulterer and the author wants me to believe his interpretation of the Bible?
I don’t think so.


27 posted on 10/05/2007 4:33:20 PM PDT by gate2wire
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ha list


30 posted on 10/06/2007 1:22:33 PM PDT by thehumanlynx (Duncan Hunter - Duncan Hunter - Duncan Hunter - vote the primary)
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I think God spoke quite clearly about Sodomites in particular, and sexual depravity in general.

Of all the Biblical cities, there is only speculation about the sites of Sodom and Gommorah.

With the rest, at least ruins have been found.

35 posted on 10/06/2007 2:02:01 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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