Posted on 07/25/2007 12:57:22 PM PDT by mngran
Pope Benedict XVI said the debate raging in some countries — particularly the United States and his native Germany — between creationism and evolution was an “absurdity,” saying that evolution can coexist with faith.
The pontiff, speaking as he was concluding his holiday in northern Italy, also said that while there is much scientific proof to support evolution, the theory could not exclude a role by God.
“They are presented as alternatives that exclude each other,” the pope said. “This clash is an absurdity because on one hand there is much scientific proof in favor of evolution, which appears as a reality that we must see and which enriches our understanding of life and being as such.”
He said evolution did not answer all the questions: “Above all it does not answer the great philosophical question, ‘Where does everything come from?’”
Benedict also said the human race must listen to “the voice of the Earth” or risk destroying its very existence.
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It would seem that you consider these to be mutually exclusive. Since Christ founded His Catholic (Universal) church on the rock, Simon Peter (from the Greek petros), what are the origins of you church if not of Christ?
Hmmm.
“Youda been stoned for suggesting that!”
Are you serious? You think the planet we live on, that support our existence, feeds and cloths our bodies, is JUST a Rock?
Jesus taught in parables. I'm sure there wasn't really a guy with talents and nobody actually sowed seeds on the rocks. He used allegory to convey his message. Why, then, can I not believe that the first 7 days is also allegorical?
I wonder if the “voice of the Earth” comment is a loose translation of what he actually said; did he make this comment in German..right?
Job 12:7-8
But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
Proverbs 24:30-34
I went by the field of the slothful, and by the vineyard of the man void of understanding;And, lo, it was all grown over with thorns, and nettles had covered the face thereof, and the stone wall thereof was broken down.
Then I saw, and considered it well: I looked upon it, and received instruction.
Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep:
So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth; and thy want as an armed man.
Isaiah 11:9
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
He explained the seven days explicitly; evening, then morning - you can only ‘not understand’ that on purpose - your own purpose to fit what you want to believe.
He explained the seven days explicitly; evening, then morning - you can only ‘not understand’ that on purpose - your own purpose to fit what you want to believe.
Have you sold everything you have and given it to the poor and left your home, wife, family, children for the sake of the kingdom of God?
No, because you don't take everything literally in the Bible.
Did Jesus mean this literally?
Luke 14
25Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple. 27And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.
Yes you can if you choose so.
I want to believe the truth. I am trying hard to that end.
No it means that I am not perfect enough in my faith to make that leap. A point that I pray about repeatedly.
Can you tell us, in the original words, not the modern English translation of the Greek translation of the first millennium Hebrew, but in the original ancient Hebrew dialect, exactly how Genesis was described to man and how, or by whom it was described to man since it occurred before there were any human witnesses? I didn't think so.
Rest assured that Pope Benedict XVI is fluent in ancient and modern Hebrew, Greek, Latin and English as well as the cultures of the times so he probably has a better understanding of the original meanings than you or your volunteer Sunday School teacher.
In which language: Aramaic, Hebrew, Koine, Greek, or Latin?
Which version: The Tanakh, the Vulgate, King James, or Douai?
Which author and which story of creation in the book of Genesis should I accept as the literal truth, the first or the second?
Oh, by the way, is it YHWH or Elohim?
If I am going to take the whole Bible literally, does that mean the earliest surviving complete manuscript, the Codex Amiatinus?
To evolve in an ever changing world to survive.
Yup, if Genesis is not to be regarded as historical and true, there is no reason to believe anything else there either.
BTW, the RCC jumpe the shark on this issue a long time ago. He is just re-iterating their already-known point of view. It is called “Theistic Evolution.” It is syncretism and it is not biblical.
LOL! Survive what? What do I have to evolve into and what am I surviving from?
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