Posted on 07/25/2007 12:57:22 PM PDT by mngran
Pope Benedict XVI said the debate raging in some countries — particularly the United States and his native Germany — between creationism and evolution was an “absurdity,” saying that evolution can coexist with faith.
The pontiff, speaking as he was concluding his holiday in northern Italy, also said that while there is much scientific proof to support evolution, the theory could not exclude a role by God.
“They are presented as alternatives that exclude each other,” the pope said. “This clash is an absurdity because on one hand there is much scientific proof in favor of evolution, which appears as a reality that we must see and which enriches our understanding of life and being as such.”
He said evolution did not answer all the questions: “Above all it does not answer the great philosophical question, ‘Where does everything come from?’”
Benedict also said the human race must listen to “the voice of the Earth” or risk destroying its very existence.
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...
You need a lot a interpretation room to get around the self-contradictory nature of the bible. So that leaves us with none.
Does that include the atheists who accept evolution? Or are you just parroting the anti-science people who think that by labeling science a religion it somehow makes their religion valid?
Perhaps you need to actually read what B16 said instead of believing what MSNBC SAID he said.
Cause if you are sure that the Pope said that your church wasn’t “real”, my FRiend you are taking the word of the MSM.
Parts of the bible are someone recollections of visions and dreams. There are parts that are by design subject to interpretation.
Popcorn bump for later.
“He doesn’t want to give people who understand science a reason to reject faith. Smart guy.”
There are many people who disbelieve evolution because of science.
No, no, no... He didn't deny Scripture, he defined Scripture for all us common, fallible, unwashed, unholy laypeople.
I just remember how indignant mngran got when the Pope cited the historical fact that Christ founded ONE church through Peter. It is interesting how so many can recite scripture without ever attempting to understand it.
I wonder how he thinks God performed all those other miracles in the Bible. For example, is Jesus still yet to be raised from the dead after a long evolutionary process? How did God create life from death in that instance?
Yes. Such as the *two* different creation stories in Genesis. Once you loosen your standards to interpret the two as being two interpretations of the same creation, then you've relaxed your standards enough to shove in the Big Bang and evolution. But of course, many can't see that forest for the trees.
“Parts of the bible are someone recollections of visions and dreams. There are parts that are by design subject to interpretation.”
Amen to that!
Wow, does your anti-Catholicism has your underwear bunched up today. Must be giving you a giant wedgie from the looks of your biased rant.
If you are really interested in learning what Pope Benedict has been saying, and not the clips the left wing news media has been printing, then I suggest you spend a few minutes and read the actual documents. They are not that long, and you might realize that Benedict is not some nut case.
I pray for the day when the Roman Catholic Church is re-united with the Orthodox churches and then with most of the Protestant denominations.
We do all believe in Jesus Christ, do we not?
BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA...
Just when I thought I'd heard it all.
John Wayne once said in character, “Pretty bold talk for a one-eyes fat man” :)
The problem lies is he qualified to make that interpretation, for myself I say absolutely not.
Yes, but atheism cannot exist with either intelligent design or the Bible.
“The problem lies is he qualified to make that interpretation, for myself I say absolutely not.”
Why not? God made you in his image, he gave your brains to think, hands to build and a soul to understand.
Augustine supposedly postulated that God put in place processes that led to the existence of all the animals, not the animals themselves. Not out of the bounds of Christian thinking, imo. That said, natural selection, Darwinism, as the driver of evolution itself is weakly supported. It’s just an assertion when you come to the big changes in creatures, not at all proven that dogs become horses, or rodents elephants, or however they claim it happens. The “missing links” are still missing and the structures in bodies seem too complex to be randomly generated, they require tens of inter-related structures to operate at all and all would have to develop at once to have a positive impact on survival. Scientists are missing too many pieces of the puzzle to worry much about it theologically, imo.
So God literally didn't know where Adam and Eve were when they "hid" themselves in the garden?
Yeah, the pope is a doofus. What does he know about the Bible?
Here's the courtesy ping you forgot, NL.
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