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Prehistoric iceman "Otzi" died from arrow wound
Reuters ^ | 6-6-07 | Anon Science Stringer

Posted on 06/06/2007 9:43:47 AM PDT by Pharmboy


The world's oldest mummy, the Italian Iceman known as Otzi,
is shown in this undated file photo. Otzi died from a
shoulder wound inflicted by an arrow, according to research
into his perfectly preserved 5,000-year old body.
(Werner Nosko/Reuters)

Italy's prehistoric iceman "Otzi" died from a shoulder wound inflicted by an arrow, according to research into his perfectly preserved 5,000-year old body.

Otzi, the oldest mummy unearthed, was found in the Italian Alps in 1991 wearing clothing made from leather and grasses and carrying a copper axe, a bow and arrows.

Though Otzi's body underwent several scientific tests to study life in the prehistoric age, it had so far been unclear whether he died from an arrow wound, a bad fall or severe freezing while climbing the high mountains.

Using modern X-ray technology, however, an Italian-Swiss research team said on Wednesday it had proved the cause of death as a lesion on an artery close to the shoulder, caused by an arrowhead that remains in the iceman's back.

A large haematoma -- or a collection of blood due to internal bleeding -- could also be seen in the surrounding tissue, and the iceman probably died shortly after the lesion was caused, researchers concluded.

Researchers had previously suggested he was killed by a rival hunter after putting up a fight, and concluded that his final meals consisted of venison and ibex meat.

The latest results on the research appeared online in the Journal of Archaeological Science and will be published in the National Geographic next month.


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: banglist; csi; godsgravesglyphs; hunting; switzerland; violence; whodunnit
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To: Pharmboy

Ibex meat.

21 posted on 06/06/2007 10:06:05 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Excellent point. The last I read he was being kept in a refrigerated storage area. Perhaps after they are finished with their research, they will inter him properly.


22 posted on 06/06/2007 10:06:19 AM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: Pharmboy

Otzi-no Man


23 posted on 06/06/2007 10:06:55 AM PDT by mikrofon (Cool Dude)
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To: Ciexyz

This is actually old news, and there have been more research findings released.

According to DNA evidence from Otzi there was much more of a fight than they suspected..

Otzi had severe bruising on his ribs probably from some kind of club. He had defensive cuts on his hands as one would find in a knife fight. His own knife had blood on it from someone other than Otzi, and his grass cape had yet another individual’s blood on it. Further, two of his arrow heads had blood from two other people, and they must have been fatal shots since he retrieved the arrows.

My guess is that he was in some sort of raid or battle, his side lost and retreated up the mountain, with Otzi perhaps carrying a wounded comrade. He was pursued, shot, but lasted long enough to hide and was frozen.


24 posted on 06/06/2007 10:16:55 AM PDT by papineau (Who doesn't jump is a French!!)
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To: papineau

I had read some of what you report here, but this was the first time I had read that they determined a cause for his death. But thanks for adding the other info...


26 posted on 06/06/2007 10:32:06 AM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: Pharmboy

Running away, then he was probably a liberal.


27 posted on 06/06/2007 10:33:24 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: papineau

Good up-to-date overview, thanks.


28 posted on 06/06/2007 10:41:48 AM PDT by blam
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To: alexander_busek
Very unlikely. Or would you likewise recommend stuffing Tutankamun back into his golden sarcophagus and “giving him a descent (re-)burial?”

Why not? If we have learned everything that we can or should from toting the remains around for years, why shouldn't we show a little respect?

Additionally, there is technology available today to make exacting copies of most anything, including remains and burial containers, and there is really no need to keep something so personal as remains on display. Apparently King Tut was buried for a reason.

"“Ötzi” (”Similaun Man”) is beyond caring.

Do you have some evidence along those lines?

29 posted on 06/06/2007 10:43:40 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Land of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: Pharmboy
died from a shoulder wound inflicted by an arrow

...found in the Italian Alps in 1991 wearing clothing made from leather and grasses and carrying a copper axe, a bow and arrows

The ODAW?

The Original Darwin Award Winner?

30 posted on 06/06/2007 10:53:17 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my SUV with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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To: Pharmboy
Otzi is from DNA haplogroup 'K' and some modern day relatives have been found. They do not want to be identified.

I believe haplogroup 'K' is generally associated with the Middle East farmers who migrated to Europe. Thomas Jefferson is haplogroup 'K', Famous DNA

31 posted on 06/06/2007 10:53:56 AM PDT by blam
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Thanks Pharmboy.

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32 posted on 06/06/2007 11:06:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 31, 2007.)
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33 posted on 06/06/2007 11:07:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 31, 2007.)
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To: Pharmboy

Since a bow and arrows were found on scene in his possession, I would have to say this is probably a suicide.


34 posted on 06/06/2007 11:10:27 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (I really don't know what I want to put here.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

>>”Ötzi is beyond caring.”

Do you have some evidence along those lines?<<

Let me rephrase that: There is no objective, scientific evidence that Ötzi cares one way or the other.


35 posted on 06/06/2007 11:31:59 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: alexander_busek
"Let me rephrase that: There is no objective, scientific evidence that Ötzi cares one way or the other."

Fair enough. But since there is no objective evidence in any particular direction, it wouldn't hurt to err on the side of what civilized society considers treating remains with dignity and respect.

36 posted on 06/06/2007 11:56:20 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Land of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: Pharmboy

Re: Helen Thomas
“She was traveling in France at the time, I believe...”

Yes, she was chasing after neanderthal hordes with a mattress strapped to her back.

So easy, even a caveman could do her.


37 posted on 06/06/2007 11:57:54 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Ciexyz

He was in a border region between Italy and Austria.

But I doubt if he was Bush-wacked. They had no immigration laws back then, so he wasn’t a minute-man.


38 posted on 06/06/2007 11:58:22 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Pharmboy

Brad Pitt has Otzi tattooed on his arm. I still say its Jolie’s skinny arse.


39 posted on 06/06/2007 11:58:47 AM PDT by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: wildbill

I am truly LOLing here in my office...


40 posted on 06/06/2007 12:05:39 PM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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