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Facing the full horror of Windows Vista
ITWire ^ | 05/15/2007 | Angus Kidman

Posted on 05/14/2007 6:00:17 PM PDT by Swordmaker

So far, Transit has been using Vista Business full-time for a fortnight. And so far, we've found nothing that works better than in Windows XP, dozens of things that are annoyingly different without being a functional improvement, and several things that work at best intermittently and at worst not at all. On the whole, we wish we'd never moved.

We should point out at the start that we migrated to Windows Vista under supposedly optimal circumstances. We waited for a few weeks before even thinking about it, so that we'd avoid any early release showstopper bugs. We purchased a machine from a prominent manufacturer (Lenovo) with Vista pre-installed, so we could avoid the upgrade nightmares that have plagued everyone else we know who's been forced to shift to Vista. (OK, that's not entirely true; a handful of Microsoft employees have told us their Vista migration was trouble-free. You can decide for yourself how valid that testimony is.) And we've deliberately kept the installed software on the machine to a minimum, to minimise the chance of an incompatible application blowout.

We're writing this article on the Vista machine, so a bare minimum of functionality has, arguably, been achieved. But that is, quite literally, the nicest thing we can say about Microsoft's newest operating system.

For starters, it's hideously slow -- notably slower than our previous machine, despite the fact that the new model has twice as much memory and a much faster processor. This isn't just delays caused by the User Account Control system, annoying as it is; even basic tasks like opening documents and launching applications are notably slower.

We'd hoped that our new system would boot faster than its predecessor, but in fact it takes even longer, whether or not it manages to connect to any networks. Applications are also crashing more often than on our XP machine, and Office 2007 -- supposedly a flagship application for Vista -- is the most frequent culprit.

The lack of anything approaching basic network functionality is our biggest complaint. We've written before about how direct Ethernet networking caused the machine to crash unpredictably. We've since discovered that Vista is incapable of communicating with one of our Linksys wireless routers, even though the model in question is certified to work on Vista and chats quite happily to numerous other machines.

Multiple phone calls and emails to Microsoft support (which we wouldn't even be entitled to if we weren't in the media) have so far failed to resolve the problem in a satisfactory way. We'll give credit to Microsoft support for trying hard, but if you can't get basic IP working in 2007, something pretty fundamental is going wrong.

Outside of the basic functionality issues, there are dozens of minor changes that haven't done anything to improve our productivity. One minor example: for years, we've used a basic HTML page stored on our local hard drive as a home page to provide easy one-click access to bookmarks. This turns out to be hopeless under Vista, since Internet Explorer insists on launching any page in a new window because of a security restriction. As such, Vista has managed to convince us to ditch Internet Explorer after nine years and switch to Firefox, which doesn't indulge in such ridiculous behaviour, and seems to run faster as well.

Vista certification for the machine also seems meaningless. We can accept, begrudgingly, that some of our favourite applications, like SyncBackSE, are going to generate a ridiculous 'Did you mean this?' dialogue every time we run them. But why does Lenovo's built-in security application, which came preinstalled on the machine, produce the same response?

In a burst of curiosity, we decided to run Microsoft's Vista Upgrade Advisor, to see if our machine was actually up to the task. The first thing it told us was that we didn't have enough drive space (apparently, it's not intelligent enough to realise that Vista is already installed). The second thing it told us was that our display and sound card weren't certified for Vista. The third thing it told us was that none of the Lenovo utilities on the machine were Vista-ready. So much for certification.

We could go on -- about the stupid interface in Windows Explorer, the non-existent search functionality, the arbitrary changes to menu names, even the horrible font choices. But the bottom line is that if we had shares in Microsoft, we'd be demanding changes more extensive than those that came between XP and SP2 to give this dog of a product any chance in the marketplace. That said, we're not holding our breath.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: microsoft; vista; windowsvista

1 posted on 05/14/2007 6:00:19 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker

My sister is a photographer and says that Vista is great for A/V but nothing else.


2 posted on 05/14/2007 6:07:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: Swordmaker
An interesting follow up to this article would be to format the disk, install WinXP, and then compare the system's performance with its Vista incarnation. My guess is that they'd be thrilled with how well their "Vista compatible" box does with something other than Vista.
3 posted on 05/14/2007 6:09:36 PM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: Swordmaker

I tried Vista Ultimate for 2 weeks. Then promptly went back to XP.


4 posted on 05/14/2007 6:21:02 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: Swordmaker

Any IIS 7 experts out there?

I have a simple, little VB.Net app that absolutely wont run under Vista/IIS 7. I have tried every thing I can think of to get it to work and am at my wit’s end. I really need it to run on Vista as that’s what my unknowing custmoers will be buying soon to run my app.........


5 posted on 05/14/2007 6:27:56 PM PDT by day10 (Whenever you come near the human race, there's layers and layers of nonsense.)
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To: Swordmaker

I upgraded my laptop to Vista back in early April without any real trouble, except that iTunes got a bit testy about it. It saw my wireless router right away and went happily to work - no networking problems whatsoever.


6 posted on 05/14/2007 6:46:20 PM PDT by xjcsa (xjcsa...source of number one Google result in search for the word "ecotard" [pleased with self])
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To: Spruce
I tried Vista Ultimate for 2 weeks. Then promptly went back to XP.

Same story here. That was on a machine that was bought specifically with Vista in mind (I'm going to have to support that OS at some point.) Some necessary stuff didn't run and I ended up having to beta a VPN client for Cisco just to get in. That, fortunately, works great but I don't think it's been released formally even yet.

The thing wasn't an unmitigated failure and there were some things I did like, but overall I'm thinking it's still a work in progress. IMHO, of course.

7 posted on 05/14/2007 6:48:14 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Swordmaker
Whoa - that's going to leave a mark.
8 posted on 05/14/2007 6:58:47 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (The Greens steal in fear of pollution, The Reds in fear of greed; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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To: Billthedrill

I tried the 64-bit install at first. Driver support was way too “iffy” and it seamed rather unstable. Disk I/O appeared crisper but otherwise I saw no difference with the 32-bit.

I had no problems with the networking in the 32-bit. And the Aero interface is kinda neat. I guess my biggest gripe is that it was just plain s-l-u-g-g-i-s-h.

There is some neat stuff in Vista, but it is not a finished product. It would seem that MS is following the industry trend of “release now, patch later” to generate revenue as soon as possible.

I will try again when the Service Pack comes out.


9 posted on 05/14/2007 7:01:41 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: xjcsa
I upgraded my laptop to Vista back in early April without any real trouble, except that iTunes got a bit testy about it.

If the problem involved an iPod, Microsoft released an update for Vista/iPod users a few days ago.

10 posted on 05/14/2007 8:11:19 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Swordmaker
Did you read Professor Gutmann's (University of Auckland, NZ) article on Vista? -- He states that: "The Vista Content Protection specification could very well constitute the longest suicide note in history." He provides an extremely thorough and damning analysis of the new OS. In a nutshell, Vista is so determined to control content on your computer, that reduced functionality results. Its very long, but well worth the read.

A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection

11 posted on 05/19/2007 7:00:09 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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