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Where Are All The Men?
fox news | Freeplancer

Posted on 04/17/2007 7:39:36 AM PDT by freeplancer

First there was Salt Lake City, and now Virgian Tech. Trey Perkins, a 19 year old student who is now on fox News spewed his story about being in the same room as the gunman while he reloaded his weapons at least once. Did he get up and charge the gunman with reckless abandon to save his fellow students? NO

When the SLC shooting took place, the local news broadcast a cell video of the shooter discharging his weapons. While the owner of the cell phone stood there and filmed the shooter, who coincidently had his back to the camera, he did nothing. Cowards, bystanders, and wimps. I am ashamed and disgusted. Maybe it is my military training or having being in a war zone that makes me know I would take action or die trying.

I would not be jumping out of windows or filming a murderer in action, and I hope to God that whoever reads this would not either. Where are all the men?


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To: freeplancer

Apparently you missed the part about 3 airliners going into buildings while many men sat and did nothing. It was only when the passengers were in contact with family and heard of the suicide missions that they banded together and did something.

Have you walked the crime scene? Have you seen the wounds of the dead and been able to confirm that none of the students died as they were charging the madman? Or have you just been watching from your couch and judging people using your crystal ball.


81 posted on 04/17/2007 8:08:47 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama
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To: starlifter
Machiavelli answered that questions four hundred years ago. He was asked whether it is better to have gold/money or loyal men. He said men. With men you can get gold. But men who work for gold will come to events where the pay isn’t worth the risk.

LEO’s are professional security bureaucrats. They are careerist interested in a financially and physically secure job with good pay and benefits. That’s why it is referred to as ‘being on the job’ or ‘I’m off the job’.

It’s a job, not a Hollywood movie.

The last five years and killings have given us enough behavioral facts to say that even with SWAT teams the SOP is wait until the killer is tired of killing and then kills himself. One student, 100 students. Wait.

If you get killed, nice funeral, cops from all over the country, but no retirement.

To people who go on mass killing sprees, Cops are just targets and cops know that the authority of their uniform is worthless.

82 posted on 04/17/2007 8:09:06 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: freeplancer

“Do you think someone who has not faced bullets and bombs would post this?”

Uh, yes - this place is full of them. Go piss off.


83 posted on 04/17/2007 8:09:41 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: brownsfan
You obviously have an axe to grind with public school.

Yes, the one's here are fairly okay as far as curriculum, but the teachers are definitly PC and the admin is too..........

84 posted on 04/17/2007 8:10:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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To: RexBeach

Of course, we do not know the circumstances nor how we would act, but I was surprised in the lack of action.

The New York subway hero said a similar thing. He was surprised that out of the 50 to 100 people standing around waiting for a train, only 3 or 4 bothered assisting the student that was having a seizure. And I wonder how many people would have jumped into the tracks to rescue the student.


85 posted on 04/17/2007 8:10:22 AM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: grasshopper2
I think you are right that they froze like deer. I would guess many were in complete shock. I took a course once years ago on how not to be a victim. A retired drill sergeant gave it & he told us to kick, hit and do whatever we could to stop from being raped. I want to think I would have tried to do that but I just don’t know if I would have...Maybe its time children were taught how to react if something like this ever happens to them. I don’t have any answers. Just doing a lot of praying for all the victims & their families .
86 posted on 04/17/2007 8:10:23 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Reminds me of the Kansas City massacre


87 posted on 04/17/2007 8:10:29 AM PDT by mel
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To: KOZ.

Those who survived said otherwise. The only one who stood up to the gunman was a Holocast survivor, a professor who blocked the door so his students might escape. Everyone else describes students doing as the gunman said, and being shot. Others fled (understandable) or hid, but only the good Professor stood up to the gunman. A real hero.


88 posted on 04/17/2007 8:10:46 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: KOZ.

Here is something to consider...you are to sensitive and should only read happy posts.


89 posted on 04/17/2007 8:11:18 AM PDT by freeplancer
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To: Killborn

That vid is friggin’ awesome! Not for the faint of heart, that’s for sure...but it shows us just how good a job our boys are doing over there, and makes me that much more happy to be an American.


90 posted on 04/17/2007 8:12:16 AM PDT by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: freeplancer
There was at least one there.

RIP Professor.

L

91 posted on 04/17/2007 8:12:16 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: freeplancer

The families of the survivor ought to sue the individual who videotaped the carnage but did nothing to stop it. They families of survivors ought to do the same to member of the MSM who do the same.


92 posted on 04/17/2007 8:12:32 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: freeplancer

All the MEN, are IN UNIFORM, protecting all the sniveling, hand wring, spineless, scheming, self-centered, sensitive, weepy-eyed,neutered sissy-boys, that this society is so adamant to produce.


93 posted on 04/17/2007 8:12:34 AM PDT by Msgt USMC (Lead, follow, or get the heck outta the way!)
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To: -YYZ-

See post #88 tough guy. At least I know what you would do potty mouth.


94 posted on 04/17/2007 8:13:02 AM PDT by freeplancer
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To: freeplancer

I don’t know how I would react but I hope I would have the balls to put up a fight rather than wait my turn to get whacked.


95 posted on 04/17/2007 8:13:14 AM PDT by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: freeplancer

With all due respect to the ladies, could THIS be what’s going on in America today? And whatever do you think could be the cause??

Isaiah 3:12
As for My people, children are their oppressors,
And women rule over them.
O My people! Those who lead you cause you to err,
And destroy the way of your paths.”

(Standing by for MASSIVE flames from the dark side – and probably more than a few from the light side as well for having the temerity to even bring this up.)


96 posted on 04/17/2007 8:13:19 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: BRITinUSA
Depens what they mean by reloaded. If he ejected the magazine and was stuffing new rounds into it then you have a point. If he ejected the magazine and inserted a new one then you have no point.

Not to mention he had TWO guns, he could have never run dry.

97 posted on 04/17/2007 8:13:38 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: freeplancer
Everybody was doing just what the government expects and has been programing for years. The old Soviet Union could’t have done better. The Jihad will note that the American dogs were terrified at a foreigner with a weapon were sniveling and cringing in a corner.
98 posted on 04/17/2007 8:13:52 AM PDT by oyez ( The right to owning firearms insures than no one owns you.)
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To: meg88

If the Jewish/Israeli professor (the holocaust survivor who blocked the door to save his students) had a Concealed Carry Permit (and could have taken his weapon into the so-called “gun free zone”) the body count would have been three: the first two victims, and the shooter.


99 posted on 04/17/2007 8:14:02 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: Pukin Dog

Down, boy. I don’t think anyone was criticizing the students (maybe the police), just wondering why no one had that “Lets roll” philosophy. It’s sad. This country is not the country I once knew. I’m afraid we’re all so Oprah-fied that if another country attacked us tomorrow, most of the country would think it rude to object.


100 posted on 04/17/2007 8:14:05 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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