Arthur Sulzberger: NYTs Publisher & Poofer Extraordinaire
Posted on 04/17/2007 7:39:36 AM PDT by freeplancer
First there was Salt Lake City, and now Virgian Tech. Trey Perkins, a 19 year old student who is now on fox News spewed his story about being in the same room as the gunman while he reloaded his weapons at least once. Did he get up and charge the gunman with reckless abandon to save his fellow students? NO
When the SLC shooting took place, the local news broadcast a cell video of the shooter discharging his weapons. While the owner of the cell phone stood there and filmed the shooter, who coincidently had his back to the camera, he did nothing. Cowards, bystanders, and wimps. I am ashamed and disgusted. Maybe it is my military training or having being in a war zone that makes me know I would take action or die trying.
I would not be jumping out of windows or filming a murderer in action, and I hope to God that whoever reads this would not either. Where are all the men?
I love these internet warriros. I wouldn't demean the word commando or the name Rambo by associating it with these guys. It just makes the opening statement in this clip made by our heroes all the more pertinent.
WARNING: EXTREME LANGUAGE, VIOLENCE, LIBERAL STUPIDITY, AND HOOHAA AWESOMENESS
http://youtube.com/watch?v=isdhEDWXg4I&feature=PlayList&p=A92AA97965D2A348&index=4
I just pray that push comes to shove, I will do my best no matter how many people deem my actions too "aggressive" or "cowardly".
They may not make you invincible, but they do offer you a chance of surviving, which standing there helpless does not.
They were waiting for the shooting to stop. Show me where it says they are supposed to step in front of a bullet. The LEOs only like to charge in, guns blazing, when it is 4:00 in the morning, and their target is an 82 year old widow that some 20 year old tweaker says is cooking crank in her basement.
Ouch. Stay well.
As most kids go to engineering class armed with a textbook and a calculator and usually only have to fight off confusion and boredom, I am going to cut them slack. I believe that this lasted only a couple of minutes. If I am given a choice between trying to escape and live verses fight an armed gunman shooting wildly and rapidly, I will choose the exit every time.
Let’s blame the gunman who planned this out so carefully that he chained doors to exits shut.
“No snobbery intended. I’m a public school product. But these kids are the products of today’s public school of sheep herding...........”
I’d disagree. I think it’s a societal issue. Private schools have the luxury of eliminating elements that traditionally make kids tough. A bully? Gone, to public school. A figher? Gone, to public school.
You obviously have an axe to grind with public school. There’s plenty to lay at their door, but I disagree with this one.
Afghanistan, Iraq, U.S military installations around the world, various Police agencies, fire departments, and in the case of us older vets - retired.
Good question!
No, I just have the honesty to admit that I don’t know what I’d do when faced with such a situation. I’d like to think I’d do something, and I know I’d be ashamed after the fact if I didn’t.
Have you been in any sort of situation like this? Maybe you have - maybe you’ve been in the military and actually had people shooting at you. That would be an advantage, if so. But if you haven’t actually faced it yet, then you’re just talking out your @$$.
This was my thought as well. Where were the Todd Beamers, Mark Binghams, etc?
Outside of Mel Gibson are there movie stars that these boys emulate that regularly feature bravery, honor respect etc?
I hadn’t heard that. I certainly wouldn’t have let the professor stand alone and can’t imagine that men of my generation would have.
Here’s something to consider....you don’t know if people got up to charge him or not, they could have died trying.
“In Chuck Yeagers auto-biography, he talked of him and other boys walking to school with .22 rifles, hunting and shooting along the way. They then left them in the coat closet and picked them up on the way out.”
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Hell, I remember having a 30-30 rifle sitting in my gun rack against the back window of my pick-up truck in junior and senior year of highschool. Now you’d get suspended for bringing a water pistol to highschool.
Go figure.
A nation of sheeple.
Actually smoking the perp wasn’t the sole responsibility of the cops. Every abled body person had a responsibility to save themselves.
Arthur Sulzberger: NYTs Publisher & Poofer Extraordinaire
I don’t remember the details; seems it was in the last 4 or 5 years. One of the brothers got shot (I don’t think fatally) before they took the gun from the shooter. They were also Scouts if I recall and got a Scout Award for it.
Do you think someone who has not faced bullets and bombs would post this? Go walk your Yorkie
they aren’t referring to situations like these, more like hostage situations. You can’t really cooperate with a madman shooting everything in sight now can you?
Would a soldier have behaved differently? I would like to think so, but the truth is that I don't know, and neither do any of you.
We can spend all week blaming the students, the faculty, the police, but in truth there is nobody to blame but the murderer, and then maybe take a look at our generation, in comparison to better ones before ours.
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