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Ways You Can Avoid Getting Junk Programs On Your New Computer
Personal Technology ^ | 04/12/2007 | Walter S. Mossberg

Posted on 04/12/2007 7:36:38 AM PDT by Swordmaker

Last week, when I condemned the flood of crippled trial software, ads and offers that come loaded on new Windows Vista computers, readers reacted strongly. I received roughly 700 emails, all but a handful agreeing with me. The column was the most popular article that day on WSJ.com and was cited on numerous other Web sites.

Clearly, many people are furious about these unwanted programs and icons, which are sometimes called craplets. Many would like to smite them without going through the laborious process of uninstalling them manually, one at a time. Some readers suggested strategies. The following are some options.

One ray of hope is a free program called PC Decrapifier. It can be downloaded at pcdecrapifier.com. This software automates the process of uninstalling craplets. It was written originally to clean up Dell computers, but its author says it will work on other brands, too. Before PC Decrapifier runs, it allows you to remove from its proposed deletion list any programs it considers junk, but which you might prefer to retain.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: malware; operatingsystems; pc; personalcomputer; software; spyware
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To: The_Victor

“I can uninstall any software from the “Add/Remove Programs” control panel in minutes.”

Care to make a bet on that? I can name a couple of commonly found pieces of software that you cannot uninstall that way.

Ever heard of “Comet Cursor”?


41 posted on 04/12/2007 10:47:20 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: The_Victor
Apple switching to Intel as the CPU provider has brought the cost of their machines down significantly.

I don't believe that statement is accurate. The cost of Macs fell dramatically during the PowerPC era, mostly due to declining costs for other components, like memory, disk drives and display panels - the same factors that allow other manufacturers to reduce their prices.

Apple did earn a reputation for high prices in the late 1980s and early 1990s when John Sculley tried to corner the market for high-priced RAM - and then the price of RAM fell and Apple was stuck with a large inventory of overpriced chips. Apple's prices have been much more competitive over the last ten years, especially since the iMac was introduced.

The problem with Dell computers is you can't get a great operating system for them - only mediocrities like Windows or Linux. I wouldn't pay $100 for a Dell computer if I had to use it.

Dell should invest in creating a great operating system. It would take billions of dollars, hundreds of engineers and several years to complete, but they could do it. Unfortunately, Michael Dell probably isn't smart enough to do that.

42 posted on 04/13/2007 2:23:59 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: TheBattman

Did Dell actually swap out the hard drives and replace them with smaller ones or did they just send you whole new boxes with the documentation of system capabilities for the new box? I have had them just swap out the whole machine rather than bother with a repair, for instance.


43 posted on 04/13/2007 2:42:54 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29

I know that at least one of them had the same numbers on it (model and Serial).

The others, I could not tell you. My assumption was that they replaced the HD first, then the MB... but I really don’t know. All I do know is that it has been a nightmare and our administration has sworn off ever doing business with Dell again...


44 posted on 04/13/2007 4:59:13 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: Spktyr

Never seen “Comet Cursor”. Since it’s not a program it won’t appear in the “Programs” list. But I can remove it in seconds by deleting the files from C:Windows/cursors.


45 posted on 04/13/2007 5:27:58 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: The_Victor
99% of my computer problems I can fix myself without tech support.

Me too. I got pretty good at troubleshooting Windows computer problems mostly because I had a lot of experience, i.e. lots of problems. The issue with my Dell laptop turned out in the end to be due to a defective hard drive. But it took Dell 18 months to finally admit the problem and send me a replacement. Prior to that they gave me one nonsensical "fix" after another to try, such as update the BIOS and video drivers, as if out of date drivers would cause a four month old machine to freeze. It got to be infuriating, especially dealing with their India call centers. Just proves the old adage that you don't lose business because you make mistakes, you lose business because you don't fix the mistakes. We're a happy Mac family now (five Macs and counting) and I really like the fact that all my time on the computer goes toward productive work- and productive Freeping- and none toward troubleshooting.

46 posted on 04/13/2007 5:29:06 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: HAL9000
I don't believe that statement is accurate. The cost of Macs fell dramatically during the PowerPC era, mostly due to declining costs for other components, like memory, disk drives and display panels - the same factors that allow other manufacturers to reduce their prices.

As of 18 months ago, when my parents replaced their old iMac, the iMac was still a $1000 machine. Since then the iMac has dropped in price to ~$700 ($599 plus monitor) with the only significant alteration being the move to Intel CPUs. Perhaps it's just coincidence, but the timing certainly seems right.

47 posted on 04/13/2007 5:34:29 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Swordmaker
I condemned the flood of crippled trial software, ads and offers that come loaded on new Windows Vista computers

I bought a new computer with Vista and haven't noticed any of this.
What the heck is he talking about?

48 posted on 04/13/2007 5:35:44 AM PDT by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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To: kanawa
I bought a new computer with Vista and haven't noticed any of this. What the heck is he talking about?

The author is being somewhat disingenuous. The problem is not a PC platform issues, it's vendor specific. Dell preloads a lot of trial software on their machines, as do some other vendors. The fact of the mater is anyone who cares to take a few minutes can uninstall all the trial software without any problems. The author is pretending the problem is significant in order to plug Apple.

49 posted on 04/13/2007 6:09:09 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: jalisco555
We're a happy Mac family now (five Macs and counting) and I really like the fact that all my time on the computer goes toward productive work- and productive Freeping- and none toward troubleshooting.

That's really cool. It's pleasant to have a discussion with someone who is positive about their own choices, as opposed to being negative about mine. If money were no object, I would probably own at least one Mac (my wife still like the Mac) but the cost of switching platforms vastly exceeds the cost of just the machine. I don't mind troubleshooting, and my experience is that I have to do it less than once a year.

50 posted on 04/13/2007 6:29:32 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: The_Victor

Like you I dislike OS wars, and flame wars in general. We should just use what works for us. That being said, some of my co-workers tell me I’m turning into an insufferable Mac snob, so I need to watch myself!


51 posted on 04/13/2007 7:41:50 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: The_Victor

Sorry, no. If you do that, it will regenerate the files the next time you start.


52 posted on 04/13/2007 9:04:19 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: The_Victor

iMacs have never had separate monitors.


53 posted on 04/13/2007 9:05:16 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
iMacs have never had separate monitors.

You're right, I keep saying iMac, but it's the Mac Mini that has the $599 price. But no monitor appears to be included in that price.


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54 posted on 04/13/2007 9:20:10 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Spktyr
Sorry, no. If you do that, it will regenerate the files the next time you start.

OK so it's malware, not intentionally installed software, which was never part of the discussion.

55 posted on 04/13/2007 9:21:33 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Swordmaker

gracias.


56 posted on 04/13/2007 9:23:56 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: Spktyr

dells are crap?


57 posted on 04/13/2007 9:31:03 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: MarineBrat

I looked at comparable Mac/PC deals; I’d be spending $1K more, at least, for a Mac....not counting software. The Mac experience isn’t worth it, unless you constantly brag about it.


58 posted on 04/13/2007 9:36:17 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Countdown = A documentary on Keith Olberman's dwindling ratings.)
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To: The_Victor

That’s just it. Comet Cursor is a commercially available software.


59 posted on 04/13/2007 11:27:14 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
That’s just it. Comet Cursor is a commercially available software.

It's typically classified adware/spyware. Check out the manual removal note, LOL!

http://www.spywareguide.com/product_show.php?id=428

Full Name:
Comet Cursor Websearch
Type: Adware
Also Known as: IncrediFind Comet Systems
Created by:
SG Index: 7 [Explain]
Removal tools: List of products that detect/remove/protect against Comet Cursor:
Category Description: Program that delivers advertisements on your PC.

Note that many websites have their own advertising, unrelated to adware.

Adware is any software application in which advertising is displayed while the program is running. The authors of these applications include additional code that delivers the ads, which can be viewed through pop-up windows or through a bar that appears on a computer screen and sometimes through text links or in integrated search results. Adware may or may not track personal information. It may also gather information anonymously or in aggregate only. Users should check the EULA and Privacy policy to ensure if the adware on their machines conforms to their standards.
Official Description: Comet Cursor changes the mouse pointer when hovering over partner sites. It is infamous for being one of the first programs to install sneakily with another, and for tracking viewing of partner pages.
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Newer versions of Comet Cursor have grown very big indeed, with all sorts of features unrelated to mouse pointers. They seem to have "cleaned up their act" for the most part.
Comment: Comet tracks visits to web sites that use its cursors, with an ID unique to each installation. However since the sites must deliberately include the Comet code in each page, this isn't much different to third-party advertising banners with cookies.
Information URL: http://www.cometcursor.com/
   
Manual removal: Should be removable through 'Add/Remove Programs' in the Control Panel.
Properties:

Click here to leave feedback for this product

60 posted on 04/13/2007 12:17:06 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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