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Let the evidence speak at the Walker Hill Site [rejoinder]
Pilot-Independent ^ | Wednesday, March 14th, 2007 | Thor Olmanson, program director, and Colleen Wells, field director

Posted on 03/17/2007 9:26:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Due to the recent inundation of misinformation regarding the Walker Hill Site, we are compelled to clarify some issues. First, neither the Office of the State Archaeologist (OSA) nor the Department of Finance has any jurisdiction regarding determinations of the validity or significance of archaeological resources. That is the responsibility of the State Historic Preservation Officer (SHPO). The SHPO has been to the site, seen the artifacts and obtained professional opinions from other researchers around the state. Based on his (Scott Anfinson, Minnesota State Archaeologist) observations and the observations of these other researchers, he concurred with our interpretation that the site warrants further investigation... Individuals have made gravely incongruous statements about the scientific process being followed, and what can be learned from it. The irony in this situation is that the people making these statements have themselves unabashedly disregarded the scientific process. We are professional archaeologists, with over 40 years of collective experience in 16 states, as well as overseas.

(Excerpt) Read more at walkermn.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: archaeology; godsgravesglyphs; history; walker



1 posted on 03/17/2007 9:26:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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Crude stone "tools" found in northern Minnesota may be at least 13,000 years old
National Geographic website | February 15, 2007 | Stefan Lovgren
Posted on 02/19/2007 8:31:38 AM EST by TXnMA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1787273/posts

Walker 'Stone Tools' Weren't Made By Humans, State Archaeologist Says
Star Tribune | 3-5-2007 | Robert Franklin
Posted on 03/05/2007 7:32:27 PM EST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1795757/posts

Archaeologists To Return To Allendale Site In May (Topper - 50,000 YO)
Island Packet | 2-17-2007 | Peter Frost
Posted on 02/17/2007 1:59:54 PM EST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1786602/posts

Discovery In North China Challenges Theory On Origin Of Man
Xinhuanet | 11-09-2001
Posted on 11/12/2001 8:20:19 AM EST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/569094/posts

Team: Chimps May Have Used Stone Hammers
Newsday | 2/12/07 | RANDOLPH E. SCHMID
Posted on 02/12/2007 5:26:25 PM EST by kiriath_jearim
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1783602/posts


2 posted on 03/17/2007 9:27:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Sunday, March 11, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 49th; ...
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
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3 posted on 03/17/2007 9:27:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Sunday, March 11, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
This one is getting to be a real cat fight!

Wonder how it will all shake out.

4 posted on 03/17/2007 9:37:53 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Walker 'Stone Tools' Weren't Made By Humans, State Archaeologist Says

What?

5 posted on 03/17/2007 9:37:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Coyoteman
"Wonder how it will all shake out."

Yup. I'm reminded of George Carter and his 'cartifacts'.

6 posted on 03/17/2007 9:44:22 PM PDT by blam
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To: Coyoteman

Cat Shakers

7 posted on 03/17/2007 9:45:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Sunday, March 11, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: BenLurkin
Eoliths:
Google

8 posted on 03/17/2007 9:48:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Sunday, March 11, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ah!


9 posted on 03/17/2007 9:50:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

The eolith controversy foreshadows (in perhaps a larger way) the Walker controversy.


10 posted on 03/17/2007 9:54:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Sunday, March 11, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Hyde Slides: Eoliths
http://geology.cwru.edu/~huwig/catalog/humanpaleontology.html#eoliths

The Paleolithic Tool Exhibition At The Wilson Museum
http://www.wilsonmuseum.org/bulletins/spring2006.html

"Even though they are now known to have no connection with human or proto-human activity, they are still valuable and enlightening. They illustrate one of the dead-end byways along the course of scientific research and endure as a chapter in the story of our growing understanding of human evolution. Understanding the historical and scientific context of the exhibition when it was shaped in the 1920s enriches our enjoyment and understanding of eoliths.

"In Wilson’s scheme of prehistoric technology, the Pre-Chellean and Chellean follow the Eolithic and, in turn, evolve into the Acheulian. These terms come from the places in northeastern France where the tools of these types were first found, Chelles and Saint- Acheul. The ancestral human beings who made the tools are now usually known as Homo erectus, and prehistoric archaeologists no longer make distinctions among Pre-Chellean, Chellean, and Acheulian. Let us think first about the people and then return to the artifacts.

"Our Homo erectus ancestors lived from some time after two million years ago to about 300,000 years ago. According to the best evidence so far, they evolved in Africa and spread into Asia and Europe around 1.9 million years ago. Europe is the place we find the most numerous tools and living sites, but many more fossil bones are found in Africa and Asia."


11 posted on 03/17/2007 10:06:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Sunday, March 11, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
I have a lot of trouble "seeing" tools before the Olduwan hand ax. Not that a naturally occurring "tool" could not be found and uses by someone and that many such tools could not be gathered in ine spot. I imagine that happened.

Acheulean tools leave no doubt that the maker was intelligent and skilled. The Olduwan hand Ax leave no doubt but the blades and scrapers often seem opportunistic finds.

It seems questionable that any people sophisticated enough to travel such distances from their origin would be so primitive in their technology. Clovis points are at the pinnacle of stone technology.

12 posted on 03/17/2007 10:24:22 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA
Walking must not require much sophistication -- even Dhimmicrats can do it. :')

clovis et al

13 posted on 03/18/2007 3:02:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Sunday, March 11, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Clovis discards:

Dome & Plane (D&P) -- A Biface Reduction Process
http://www.ele.net/Carl/flt_bifa.htm


14 posted on 03/18/2007 3:03:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Sunday, March 11, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Let the evidence speak at the Walker Hill Site

What evidence?

15 posted on 03/18/2007 6:04:22 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1802635/posts?page=2#2


16 posted on 03/18/2007 9:11:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Sunday, March 11, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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