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1 posted on 01/18/2007 1:57:37 PM PST by hsmomx3
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Has she changed the air filter in recent memory?


2 posted on 01/18/2007 1:59:39 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter - a candidate who doesn't need infomercials to convince you he's a conservative)
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My best guess is that there is a blocked or clogged sewer vent. When the heater's return fan kicks in High the negative pressure is enough to draw fumes back through a sink or toilet trap.

If you smell sewage, always check the traps and vents first.


3 posted on 01/18/2007 2:00:13 PM PST by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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She bought John Wayne Gacy's old house.


5 posted on 01/18/2007 2:02:00 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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I can't say for sure, but it sounds to me like like it is a plumbing problem. Sewerage gasses may be returning into the house due to the negative pressure created by the air handler intake. The gas (methane) comes up through the drains for the sink, washing machine, and so forth.

There are way to prevent back flows. (back flow preventer)

Consult a plumber.

Other than that, I can't imagine what it could be. Raising the temperature probable causes the air handler to run more, which brings in more gas.

7 posted on 01/18/2007 2:08:10 PM PST by Cold Heat
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Anyone care to take a guess as to the culprit?


9 posted on 01/18/2007 2:08:54 PM PST by drjimmy
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If the smell is coming out of the heating vents, I would check the ductwork for the presence of standing water that could have leaked in and gotten stagnant.

If the smell can't truly be traced to the heating vents it may actually be sewage. I would check the plumbing fixture drains (commodes, sinks, shower/bath, etc.).

Good Luck!


10 posted on 01/18/2007 2:10:19 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (Alec Baldwin is not a real actor, but he plays one on TV.)
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Another great place for sewage odor to come in is the washer drain.


12 posted on 01/18/2007 2:19:53 PM PST by Chickensoup (If you don't go to the holy war, the holy war will come to you.)
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The solution is to crack a window


13 posted on 01/18/2007 2:20:25 PM PST by Chickensoup (If you don't go to the holy war, the holy war will come to you.)
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Is she logged on?


14 posted on 01/18/2007 2:20:28 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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May be dead mice in the ductwork. Human or animal, death has a certain strong sickly-sweet smell.

John / Billybob
15 posted on 01/18/2007 2:36:03 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Please get involved: www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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Check the condensation tray for the unit. It may be clogged and the water is now stagnant.

If the unit is ground level, she may have also been experiencing water seepage on the floor. Units in the attic will drip water onto the ceiling (clues that lead to this point).

16 posted on 01/18/2007 2:44:54 PM PST by Deguello
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My cousin has central heating (no gas) and when she turns her heat on above 65 degrees, the entire house smells of sewage.

What do you mean 'central heating (no gas)'? Do you mean that it has an electric element to heat up the air as opposed to gas? Or that heat is supplied from a 'central heating unit' source that services several homes/buildings and she has a smaller unit that she can turn on to draw some heat from that central source as she needs to? And what is the significance of '65 degrees'? Are you saying that with it running below 65 degrees, there is no smell when the heat comes on? There is some missing information here that would be useful to a troubleshooter.

My guess is that some of the posts here that speak about the issue of sewer gas are on the right track..... but they did not go far enough in the explanation. If your cousin has a sink, toilet or more likely a shower in the house that does not get used very often, what can happen is that the u-tube trap in the drain line can dry out. If used regularly, the trap should have water in it - this is what will seal from the back flow of odours and gases up from the sewer. However, if the shower does not get used for a few weeks, the trap may dry out and thus create a ready path for fumes. If this is the case, it means that your cousin's heating unit has the supply and return ducts connected in such a way that the entire house goes under negative pressure when it comes on.... something that it should not do but quite often happens because contractors don't understand the concept of make-up air. [By the way, the same thing could happen if all the bathroom exhaust vents, kitchen range hood exhaust, central vac and so forth are also on at the same time - the house goes to negative pressure since all these devices are exhausting at the same time that no devices are bringing air in to replace what is being taken out... hence house goes slightly negative. This can be a very dangerous situation under some circumstances. If it is a very tight house which allows it to go negative and there ARE gas appliances in the house such as a water heater or a furnace, there is a serious potential for gas fumes to exhaust into the house - trust me on this, more than one person has died of carbon monoxide poisoning with this as the cause.]

17 posted on 01/18/2007 3:03:08 PM PST by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest... ("Sooner or later in life, we all sit down to a banquet of consequences." Robert Louis Stevenson)
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Go to all sinks, floor drains, bath tubs, showers, a washing machine drain not used, etc and pour water in the drains to fill the drain traps. A half a pitcher of water is more than enough in most cases. Do so once weekly to seldom used drains. If the traps are empty sewage gas can come up the drain pipe. If the house is on a septic/drain field system the septic tank may need pumping especially if drains become slow.

Signed,
retired Building Maintenance Mechanic with a HVAC background :>}

19 posted on 01/18/2007 5:54:30 PM PST by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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One more possibility comes to mind but not likely. On newer construction IIRC due to the have materials involved in construction which put off rayon and other gases,. etc. To compensate and meet safety standards newer construction has an intake vent which feeds into the Central heat and Air vent system. This is usually on the roof. There is a very slight chance if the vent was installed too close to a plumbing vent which also vents to the roof it could at a certain temperatures be drawing in sewer gas from the vent. This would especially be possible on manufactured housing where this type of air intake is required.

Next if could possibly be a dead mouse in the ventilation system but that doesn't smell like sewer IMO.

20 posted on 01/18/2007 6:20:30 PM PST by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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Since this is a central heating thread.... :)


I try to turn the thermostat down at night to save energy (and money). But this old house has some leaks, and the temperature drops fast inside the house.

So, the unit seems to cut on and off just as many times during the night when it's set on 63 degrees compared to when it's set on 72 degrees during the day.

Seems to me there is no benefit in cutting it down if it's going to run just as much as normal. I might as well leave it on 72 and be comfortable.

Is that right? Any heater guys out there who can answer?

Thanks in advance!

(And just as a side note, I have fixed what leaks I could by adding sealing tape, etc.)


21 posted on 01/18/2007 8:53:02 PM PST by Cedar
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Dead rat in the system vents maybe. I have seen that before.


24 posted on 01/18/2007 9:27:22 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Marxis-Dimocrats stand for everything I hate and wish to see destroyed, including them!)
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